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From: Mike Hunter on 2 Jan 2010 15:31 Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it belongs? "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message news:s4mdnXeDVfMM-KPWnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "Heron McKeister" <not(a)home.com> wrote in message > news:Dor%m.699$ay.99(a)newsfe02.iad... >> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message >> news:f4mdnZ7igMVzj6PWnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> >>> "Heron McKeister" <not(a)home.com> wrote in message >>> news:m_5%m.2990$w21.648(a)newsfe17.iad... >>> > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message >>> > news:v42dnSJh4PMxSKHWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> >> >>> >> "George Orwell" <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote in message >>> >> news:0d18a185bf14e4d630690be0e0eb3759(a)mixmaster.it... >>> >> > A beneficial side effect of your demand >>> >> > is it throws a monkey wrench into the TSA police state to which >>> >> > law abiding citizens are now subjected. >>> >> >>> >> Given the choice between active passenger inspection, or being on >>> >> a plane with an enabled terrorist, I will take the "police state" >>> >> every >>> >> time. >>> > >>> > With respect to a police state, Benjamin Franklin famously >>> > stated that: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain >>> > a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety". >>> > He also said that "great empire, like a great cake, is most >>> > easily diminished at the edges". >>> > >>> >>> I dont consider freedom to take explosives onto an airplane to >>> be one of our basic liberties. >> >> >> The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution limiting >> search and seizure clearly addresses just such an issue: >> >> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, >> houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches >> and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall >> issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or >> affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be >> searched, and the persons or things to be seized." > > When there is a clear and present threat, these searches are > not unreasonable. We live in a state of "probably cause" > due to the increased threat of Al Qaeda and other groups. > > If you dont want to be searched, take the bus.
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Jan 2010 15:33 Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it belongs? "Dave" <hairy411(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7q7qd3Fq8hU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message > news:4v-dnVHXRep4-KPWnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "Hal" <halatos(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:94d05731-7c76-453d-bfb9-61ff84cd2391(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>> > >>>> Given the choice between active passenger inspection, or being on >>>> a plane with an enabled terrorist, I will take the "police state" every >>>> time. >>> >>> Then leave the country, because this is the exact attitude that goes >>> against every single principle this country was founded upon. >>> >>> People like you should be put to sleep. >>> >>> Chris >> >> People like you are scary. > > It's obvious that Halitosis cares much more about HIS freedoms than he > does about the lives of the flying public. It's also obvious that he is > not part of the flying public. >
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Jan 2010 15:34 Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it belongs? "Heron McKeister" <not(a)home.com> wrote in message news:dRJ%m.7887$Sh7.2913(a)newsfe25.iad... > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message > news:b_ednSnxH6pIy6LWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "Dave" <hairy411(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7q7qd3Fq8hU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> > >> > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message >> > news:4v-dnVHXRep4-KPWnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> >> >> "Hal" <halatos(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:94d05731-7c76-453d-bfb9-61ff84cd2391(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >> >>> > >> >>>> Given the choice between active passenger inspection, or being on >> >>>> a plane with an enabled terrorist, I will take the "police state" > every >> >>>> time. >> >>> >> >>> Then leave the country, because this is the exact attitude that goes >> >>> against every single principle this country was founded upon. >> >>> >> >>> People like you should be put to sleep. >> >>> >> >>> Chris >> >> >> >> People like you are scary. >> > >> > It's obvious that Halitosis cares much more about HIS freedoms than he >> > does about the lives of the flying public. It's also obvious that he is >> > not part of the flying public. >> >> Some years ago, my children's school teacher was shot and thrown out of >> the airplane onto the tarmac at Athens airport. She laid there for > about >> three hours while the terrorists played out their little scenario. That >> made >> a lasting impression on me. > > Albeit unlikely the magnitude of the impression that > possible defenestration onto the tarmac alone made > upon her.nonepithelial, extraskeletal mesenchyme > exclusive of the reticuloendothelial system and glia. > >
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Jan 2010 15:34
Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it belongs? "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:8ix%m.108$nR4.67(a)newsfe01.iad... > On 01/01/2010 2:51 PM, Hal wrote: >>> >>> Simply ban Muslims from flying, THEY are the Enemy. >>> >>> -- >>> Islam Delenda Est >> >> That's a typical stereotype, one I would expect having read your other >> messages. Not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are >> muslim. Does that mean we should ban all the muslims from flying? No. > > While true, are we not being too lienient on muslim/islam here? > > Pleant of "honour killings" right here at home, for a religious cult of > fascism and intollerance. > >> To put it another way, by your logic because SOME cars are used to >> kill people, we should ban ALL cars. Because SOME drivers licenses >> belong to people who drink and drive, we should ban ALL drivers. >> Because some toothbrushes are turned into weapons by prisoners, we >> should ban ALL toothbrushes. >> >> See how that stereotype brush can get away from you really easily? >> >> Chris > > If a large enough group of them cause problems in the name of "Ala" then I > have no problem of putting them right alongside of the Hells Angels. Lots > of good bikers too but in some clubs, a pretty nasty problem. |