From: Mike Hunter on
Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it
belongs?


"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Heron McKeister" <not(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>>> "Heron McKeister" <not(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>>> > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>>> >> "George Orwell" <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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>>> >> > A beneficial side effect of your demand
>>> >> > is it throws a monkey wrench into the TSA police state to which
>>> >> > law abiding citizens are now subjected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Given the choice between active passenger inspection, or being on
>>> >> a plane with an enabled terrorist, I will take the "police state"
>>> >> every
>>> >> time.
>>> >
>>> > With respect to a police state, Benjamin Franklin famously
>>> > stated that: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain
>>> > a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety".
>>> > He also said that "great empire, like a great cake, is most
>>> > easily diminished at the edges".
>>> >
>>>
>>> I dont consider freedom to take explosives onto an airplane to
>>> be one of our basic liberties.
>>
>>
>> The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution limiting
>> search and seizure clearly addresses just such an issue:
>>
>> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
>> houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches
>> and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall
>> issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or
>> affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
>> searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
>
> When there is a clear and present threat, these searches are
> not unreasonable. We live in a state of "probably cause"
> due to the increased threat of Al Qaeda and other groups.
>
> If you dont want to be searched, take the bus.


From: Mike Hunter on
Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it
belongs?

"Dave" <hairy411(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>> "Hal" <halatos(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> >
>>>> Given the choice between active passenger inspection, or being on
>>>> a plane with an enabled terrorist, I will take the "police state" every
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> Then leave the country, because this is the exact attitude that goes
>>> against every single principle this country was founded upon.
>>>
>>> People like you should be put to sleep.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> People like you are scary.
>
> It's obvious that Halitosis cares much more about HIS freedoms than he
> does about the lives of the flying public. It's also obvious that he is
> not part of the flying public.
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it
belongs?

"Heron McKeister" <not(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>> "Dave" <hairy411(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>> >> "Hal" <halatos(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
> news:94d05731-7c76-453d-bfb9-61ff84cd2391(a)o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>> >>> >
>> >>>> Given the choice between active passenger inspection, or being on
>> >>>> a plane with an enabled terrorist, I will take the "police state"
> every
>> >>>> time.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then leave the country, because this is the exact attitude that goes
>> >>> against every single principle this country was founded upon.
>> >>>
>> >>> People like you should be put to sleep.
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris
>> >>
>> >> People like you are scary.
>> >
>> > It's obvious that Halitosis cares much more about HIS freedoms than he
>> > does about the lives of the flying public. It's also obvious that he is
>> > not part of the flying public.
>>
>> Some years ago, my children's school teacher was shot and thrown out of
>> the airplane onto the tarmac at Athens airport. She laid there for
> about
>> three hours while the terrorists played out their little scenario. That
>> made
>> a lasting impression on me.
>
> Albeit unlikely the magnitude of the impression that
> possible defenestration onto the tarmac alone made
> upon her.nonepithelial, extraskeletal mesenchyme
> exclusive of the reticuloendothelial system and glia.
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Why don't you guys post this OT BS in the alt.autos.toyota NG where it
belongs?

"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On 01/01/2010 2:51 PM, Hal wrote:
>>>
>>> Simply ban Muslims from flying, THEY are the Enemy.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Islam Delenda Est
>>
>> That's a typical stereotype, one I would expect having read your other
>> messages. Not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are
>> muslim. Does that mean we should ban all the muslims from flying? No.
>
> While true, are we not being too lienient on muslim/islam here?
>
> Pleant of "honour killings" right here at home, for a religious cult of
> fascism and intollerance.
>
>> To put it another way, by your logic because SOME cars are used to
>> kill people, we should ban ALL cars. Because SOME drivers licenses
>> belong to people who drink and drive, we should ban ALL drivers.
>> Because some toothbrushes are turned into weapons by prisoners, we
>> should ban ALL toothbrushes.
>>
>> See how that stereotype brush can get away from you really easily?
>>
>> Chris
>
> If a large enough group of them cause problems in the name of "Ala" then I
> have no problem of putting them right alongside of the Hells Angels. Lots
> of good bikers too but in some clubs, a pretty nasty problem.