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From: Ray O on 16 Oct 2007 00:42 "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:471433a0$0$90430$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... > Thanks a million for providing us with the > excellent advice, Ray. My Camry's notch seams > thank you, too :-) You're welcome! -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: tom418 on 16 Oct 2007 16:55 I'm quoting from a 1995 factory manual (Avalon) In addition to the rear axle beam, the manual shows the "notched areas " (4 of them) as being jacking points in addition to being "Pantograph" jacking points. So you can lift there also (as other posters have said) "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4713e000$0$90415$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... > tom418 wrote: > > > That's exactly where the maintenance manual says to put the jack- center of > > the rear axle beam. > ======== > > Tom418, what manual are you quoting from? My '06 Camry > manual does not mention the words "rear axle beam," > though I'm guessing, since you're probably very knowledgeable, > that's what the arrow in the manual's picture is pointing to. > > The manual just shows a poorly drawn picture and says [Quote]: > > "When jacking up your vehicle with the jack, position the > jack correctly as shown in the illustrations." [End quote] > > I guess the manual is lacking in this department, though > the manual does do a good job describing and showing the set > of 4 double notches along the side rails. So for novices, > I would use the side rails when jacking up the car to > rotate the tires.
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 15:31 Built_Well wrote: > Dale wrote: >> >> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon >> or Camry. >> >> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where >> the two marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put >> the jackstands? > ======== > > Dale, I would place the jack stands directly inwards of > the notches, since you can't place the stands between > the notches if the floor jack is occupying that spot. ======== By the way, if all you're doing is an oil change, just roll the car onto ramps, available at Walmart for $35. Dale, I just found the alternate jacking points on the '06 Camry. It's on Page 304 of the manual. At the front, the point is in the middle of the car some distance in from the bumper. It's hard to tell from the diagram if the plastic protective skirt covers over the jack point or not, as someone suggested it might, and that you might have to remove a panel to get to the jack point. At the rear of the car, the jack point is also in the middle as you would expect, and once again it is in some distance from the bumper. The diagram shows the jack point to be between two different crossbars that traverse the vehicle from left side to right side. The jack point is located close to and directly inwards of the exhaust pipe. The diagram does not show either of the cross bars being used as a place to connect the jack. The diagrams look harry to me, and the jack points are too far underneath the car for my liking. If you want to rotate the tires, I would just use the easy side-rail notches method, also described in the manual (on P. 273 in the repair-a-flat-tire section). For rotating all 4 tires, the easily found side-rail notches method does require you to raise the vehicle with the floor jack 4 separate times, instead of just 2 times if using Ray's method, but the notches are easily found and seen. Although Ray O and a local mechanic in town both mentioned that you could use some kind of crossbar near the suspension, the manual mentions nothing about connecting the jack to any crossbar. So we'll leave that method for the pros :-) There's lots of crossbars underneath the car. Novices like us wouldn't want to pick the wrong one. Some quotes from the manual to keep in mind when jacking up the car: "Stop the vehicle on a level firm ground, firmly set the parking brake and put the transmission in "P" (automatic) or reverse (manual)." "Make sure to set the jack properly in the jack point. Raising the vehicle with jack improperly positioned will damage the vehicle or may allow the vehicle to fall off the jack and cause personal injury." And, of course, always use jack stands when rotating tires. So, for novices like us, I would just raise the car four times from each of the 4 double notches found along the bottom side rail. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Ray O on 19 Oct 2007 00:53
"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.15.19.31.10.243104(a)hotmail.com... > > Built_Well wrote: > >> Dale wrote: >>> >>> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon >>> or Camry. >>> >>> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where >>> the two marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put >>> the jackstands? >> ======== >> >> Dale, I would place the jack stands directly inwards of >> the notches, since you can't place the stands between >> the notches if the floor jack is occupying that spot. > ======== > > By the way, if all you're doing is an oil change, just > roll the car onto ramps, available at Walmart for $35. > > Dale, I just found the alternate jacking points on > the '06 Camry. It's on Page 304 of the manual. > At the front, the point is in the middle of the car > some distance in from the bumper. It's hard to > tell from the diagram if the plastic protective skirt > covers over the jack point or not, as someone suggested > it might, and that you might have to remove a panel to > get to the jack point. > > At the rear of the car, the jack point is also in the > middle as you would expect, and once again it is in > some distance from the bumper. The diagram shows > the jack point to be between two different crossbars that > traverse the vehicle from left side to right side. > The jack point is located close to and directly inwards > of the exhaust pipe. > The diagram does not show either of the cross bars being > used as a place to connect the jack. > > The diagrams look harry to me, and the jack points are > too far underneath the car for my liking. If you want > to rotate the tires, I would just use the easy side-rail > notches method, also described in the manual (on P. 273 > in the repair-a-flat-tire section). > > For rotating all 4 tires, the easily found side-rail > notches method does require you to raise the vehicle > with the floor jack 4 separate times, instead of just > 2 times if using Ray's method, but the notches are > easily found and seen. > > Although Ray O and a local mechanic in town both mentioned > that you could use some kind of crossbar near the > suspension, the manual mentions nothing about connecting > the jack to any crossbar. So we'll leave that method for > the pros :-) There's lots of crossbars underneath the > car. Novices like us wouldn't want to pick the wrong one. > > Some quotes from the manual to keep in mind when jacking > up the car: > > "Stop the vehicle on a level firm ground, firmly set the > parking brake and put the transmission in "P" (automatic) > or reverse (manual)." > > "Make sure to set the jack properly in the jack point. > Raising the vehicle with jack improperly positioned will > damage the vehicle or may allow the vehicle to fall > off the jack and cause personal injury." > > And, of course, always use jack stands when rotating tires. > > So, for novices like us, I would just raise the car > four times from each of the 4 double notches found along > the bottom side rail. > Just don't cry when the pinch welds are bent over ;-) Go to your local hobby store and get a white or yellow paint pen, then ask your local mechanic to put the car on a lift and show you the jacking and jack stand points, then mark them with the paint pen. Once you get the hang of what you're looking for, it is usually very obvious where the reinforced parts of the car are. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |