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From: jor on 15 Oct 2007 10:29 On 2007-10-14 07:44:07 -0700, jimmyjack38(a)aol-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Dale) said: > Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or > Camry. > > If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the two > marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the jackstands? Ray's answer is the correct one according to my Avalon's owner's manual. jor
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 15:53 Built_Well wrote: >> Dale wrote: >> >> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a >> Avalon or Camry. >> >> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where >> the two marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put >> the jackstands? >> ======== > > I would place the jack stands directly inwards of > the notches, since you can't place the stands between > the notches if the floor jack is occupying that spot. ======== By the way, if all you're doing is an oil change, just roll the car onto ramps, available at Walmart for $35. Dale, I just found the alternate jacking points on the '06 Camry. It's on Page 304 of the manual. At the front, the point is in the middle of the car some distance in from the bumper. It's hard to tell from the diagram if the plastic protective skirt covers over the jack point or not, as someone suggested it might, and that you might have to remove a panel to get to it. At the rear of the car, the jack point is also in the middle as you would expect, and once again it is in some distance from the bumper. The diagram shows the jack point to be between two crossbars that traverse the vehicle from left side to right side. The jack point is located close to and directly inwards from the exhaust pipe. The diagrams look harry to me, and the jack points are too far underneath the car for my liking. If you want to rotate the tires, I would just use the easy side-rail notches method, also described in the manual (on P. 273 in the repair-a-flat-tire section). For rotating all 4 tires, the easily found side-rail notches method does require you to raise the vehicle with the floor jack 4 separate times, instead of just 2 times if using Ray's method, but the notches are easily seen. Although Ray and a local mechanic in town both mentioned that you could use some kind of crossbar near the suspension, the manual mentions nothing about connecting the jack to any crossbar. So we'll leave that method for the pros :-) There's lots of crossbars underneath the car. Novices like us wouldn't want to pick the wrong one. Some quotes from the manual to keep in mind when jacking up the car: "Stop the vehicle on a level firm ground, firmly set the parking brake and put the transmission in "P" (automatic) or reverse (manual)." "Make sure to set the jack properly in the jack point. Raising the vehicle with jack improperly positioned will damage the vehicle or may allow the vehicle to fall off the jack and cause personal injury." And, of course, always use jack stands when rotating tires. So, for novices like us, I would just raise the car four times from each of the 4 double notches found along the bottom side rails. - Built_Well
From: tom418 on 15 Oct 2007 17:22 That's exactly where the maintenance manual says to put the jack- center of the rear axle beam. "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:2cCdnfHd0b6vqY_anZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d(a)comcast.com... > > "Dale" <jimmyjack38(a)aol-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message > news:F6KdnR2Ve6-qto_anZ2dnUVZ_tqtnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or > > Camry. > > > > If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the two > > marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the jackstands? > > > > I'm pretty sure that there is a solid rail connecting the left and right > rear suspension, and I would jack from the center of the rail, with the jack > stands placed where the rail meets the suspension or just inboard of the > pinch weld where the underbody is formed like a box. > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) > >
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 17:49 tom418 wrote: > That's exactly where the maintenance manual says to put the jack- center of > the rear axle beam. ======== Tom418, what manual are you quoting from? My '06 Camry manual does not mention the words "rear axle beam," though I'm guessing, since you're probably very knowledgeable, that's what the arrow in the manual's picture is pointing to. The manual just shows a poorly drawn picture and says [Quote]: "When jacking up your vehicle with the jack, position the jack correctly as shown in the illustrations." [End quote] I guess the manual is lacking in this department, though the manual does do a good job describing and showing the set of 4 double notches along the side rails. So for novices, I would use the side rails when jacking up the car to rotate the tires.
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 18:45
This all brings up a good question about rotating tires. I guess most floor jacks with a lifting range of about 5 to 19 inches are designed to lift cars from the center of the front and rear axles found deep behind the bumpers. But if you're doing a tire rotation, and you use the floor jacks to raise the car at the double notches found along the side rails by each tire, can you still safely lift the car to the maximum floor jack lifting height of 19 inches, or would you only lift to 15 inches or so? Also, when using the double notches found near each wheel would you lift both passenger-side wheels first, then the driver-side? This would tip the car sideways, and I'd be worried about a roll-over. Would it be better to lift both front-side notches first, then move to both rear-side notches? |