From: jor on 15 Oct 2007 10:29
On 2007-10-14 07:44:07 -0700, jimmyjack38(a)aol-dot-com.no-spam.invalid
> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or
> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the two
> marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the jackstands?
Ray's answer is the correct one according to my Avalon's owner's manual.
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 15:53
>> Dale wrote:
>> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a
>> Avalon or Camry.
>> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where
>> the two marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put
>> the jackstands?
> I would place the jack stands directly inwards of
> the notches, since you can't place the stands between
> the notches if the floor jack is occupying that spot.
By the way, if all you're doing is an oil change, just
roll the car onto ramps, available at Walmart for $35.
Dale, I just found the alternate jacking points on
the '06 Camry. It's on Page 304 of the manual.
At the front, the point is in the middle of the car
some distance in from the bumper. It's hard to
tell from the diagram if the plastic protective skirt
covers over the jack point or not, as someone suggested
it might, and that you might have to remove a panel
to get to it.
At the rear of the car, the jack point is also in the
middle as you would expect, and once again it is in
some distance from the bumper. The diagram shows
the jack point to be between two crossbars that
traverse the vehicle from left side to right side.
The jack point is located close to and directly inwards
from the exhaust pipe.
The diagrams look harry to me, and the jack points are
too far underneath the car for my liking. If you want
to rotate the tires, I would just use the easy side-rail
notches method, also described in the manual (on P. 273
in the repair-a-flat-tire section).
For rotating all 4 tires, the easily found side-rail
notches method does require you to raise the vehicle
with the floor jack 4 separate times, instead of just
2 times if using Ray's method, but the notches are
Although Ray and a local mechanic in town both mentioned
that you could use some kind of crossbar near the
suspension, the manual mentions nothing about connecting
the jack to any crossbar. So we'll leave that method for
the pros :-) There's lots of crossbars underneath the
car. Novices like us wouldn't want to pick the wrong one.
Some quotes from the manual to keep in mind when jacking
up the car:
"Stop the vehicle on a level firm ground, firmly set the
parking brake and put the transmission in "P" (automatic)
or reverse (manual)."
"Make sure to set the jack properly in the jack point.
Raising the vehicle with jack improperly positioned will
damage the vehicle or may allow the vehicle to fall
off the jack and cause personal injury."
And, of course, always use jack stands when rotating tires.
So, for novices like us, I would just raise the car
four times from each of the 4 double notches found along
the bottom side rails.
From: tom418 on 15 Oct 2007 17:22
That's exactly where the maintenance manual says to put the jack- center of
the rear axle beam.
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> "Dale" <jimmyjack38(a)aol-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
> > Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or
> > Camry.
> > If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the two
> > marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the jackstands?
> I'm pretty sure that there is a solid rail connecting the left and right
> rear suspension, and I would jack from the center of the rail, with the
> stands placed where the rail meets the suspension or just inboard of the
> pinch weld where the underbody is formed like a box.
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 17:49
> That's exactly where the maintenance manual says to put the jack- center of
> the rear axle beam.
Tom418, what manual are you quoting from? My '06 Camry
manual does not mention the words "rear axle beam,"
though I'm guessing, since you're probably very knowledgeable,
that's what the arrow in the manual's picture is pointing to.
The manual just shows a poorly drawn picture and says [Quote]:
"When jacking up your vehicle with the jack, position the
jack correctly as shown in the illustrations." [End quote]
I guess the manual is lacking in this department, though
the manual does do a good job describing and showing the set
of 4 double notches along the side rails. So for novices,
I would use the side rails when jacking up the car to
rotate the tires.
From: Built_Well on 15 Oct 2007 18:45
This all brings up a good question about rotating tires.
I guess most floor jacks with a lifting range of about
5 to 19 inches are designed to lift cars from the center
of the front and rear axles found deep behind the bumpers.
But if you're doing a tire rotation, and you use the
floor jacks to raise the car at the double notches found
along the side rails by each tire, can you still safely lift
the car to the maximum floor jack lifting height of 19 inches,
or would you only lift to 15 inches or so?
Also, when using the double notches found near each wheel
would you lift both passenger-side wheels first, then the
driver-side? This would tip the car sideways, and I'd
be worried about a roll-over. Would it be better to
lift both front-side notches first, then move to both