From: Raven on
Watched the tech pick the drain plug up from the drain grate and proceed to
screw it into the oil pan without wiping, never saw the oil filter housing
get wiped out before the new element went in and had a sloppy mess to clean
off the bottom of the oil pan when I got home. I may have thought there was
an oil leak if I hadn't seen how carelessly done the whole thing was. It
was free so I used it as a learning experience about dealer service a this
was my first ever brand new car. I have always done all my own oil changes
anyway, and if this is all I can expect from paying dealer prices I'll stick
to doing it myself from now on.

"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Raven wrote:
>
>> I was not overly impressed by dealer practices on my initial oil change.
> ========
>
> Raven, what was it that you didn't like about the way your dealer
> handled your oil change?
>


From: Built_Well on
Dale wrote:

> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or
> Camry.
>
> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the two
> marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the jackstands?
========

Well, for a rotation, I guess you can raise the car one corner at a time
using the floor jack while the jack is attached between the 2 notches
found near the rocker panels and wheels like you said, and then attach
the jack stands directly inwards from the floor jack. I guess this
means the stands will not actually be contacting the vehicle between the
2 notches.

Unfortunatley, my '06 Camry manual doesn't show the locations Ray O is
talking about, so I guess I'll go by the notches. I don't want to
attach the stands to the wrong crossbar! [chuckle]

From: Ray O on

"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dale wrote:
>
>> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or
>> Camry.
>>
>> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the two
>> marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the jackstands?
> ========
>
> Well, for a rotation, I guess you can raise the car one corner at a time
> using the floor jack while the jack is attached between the 2 notches
> found near the rocker panels and wheels like you said, and then attach
> the jack stands directly inwards from the floor jack. I guess this
> means the stands will not actually be contacting the vehicle between the
> 2 notches.
>
> Unfortunatley, my '06 Camry manual doesn't show the locations Ray O is
> talking about, so I guess I'll go by the notches. I don't want to
> attach the stands to the wrong crossbar! [chuckle]
>
You seem to have an interest in learning how to service your car yourself.
You should look into local trade schools, community colleges, and high
school districts to see if they have auto shop classes. Those classes
should be good to gain a basic understanding of how to service your car.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Dale on

> Dale wrote:
> Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or
Camry.
>
> If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the
two marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the
jackstands?

To whom ever it was who said I shouldn't be under
a car until I find out where to put the jackstand, he's right. Now,
funny guy just where do you put it? Where do you put it so the weight
of the car doesn't bend something, when you lower the car onto it.

From: Built_Well on
Dale wrote:
> > Dale wrote:
> > Where do you place the jack stands when you jack up a Avalon or
> Camry.
> >
> > If the jack is located where you're supposed to put it, where the
> two marks are ahead of the rear wheels, where do you put the
> jackstands?
>
> To whom ever it was who said I shouldn't be under
> a car until I find out where to put the jackstand, he's right. Now,
> funny guy just where do you put it? Where do you put it so the weight
> of the car doesn't bend something, when you lower the car onto it.
========

I would place the jack stands directly inwards of
the notches, since you can't place the stands between
the notches if the floor jack is occupying that spot.

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