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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Feb 2010 15:09 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:28:03 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > A Mafia family I wasn't going there... the owner came in and his cell phone started playing the theme from The Godfather, and I knew it was time to look for a new job... > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:hm2cq4$nt3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:02:52 -0800, OscartheGrouch wrote: >> >>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:51:39 -0800, OscartheGrouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hachiroku ???? wrote: >>>>>> This fellow knew what to do to bring his car to a screeching halt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Notice the technique used when the countdown timer gets to ~1:10... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I've been watching the status of all this about the accelerator pedal >>>>> with a lot of interest. The high level of interest is because my >>>>> accelerator has hung up on the floor mat 5 or 6 times. I've learned >>>>> not to gun it. That's how I have solved the problem. So today I >>>>> called my local dealer who does all my work. My car is a 2005 Prius. >>>>> They looked up my car and told me it was made in Japan and is not >>>>> involved in the recall, but that I can bring it in at my own expense. >>>>> Despite the fact that the accelerator will stick. I would think this >>>>> would be disturbing news to Toyota. Not disturbing enough I guess. My >>>>> problem is that I can never get the floor may lock device thingy that >>>>> is furthest from the gas pedal and closest to me to actually lock. It >>>>> just can't be forced down into the hole it's supposed to go into. But >>>>> they will be nice enough to fix it at my expense. Great. >>>> >>>> >>>> Take it to them and show it to them. It should have been LOCKED IN >>>> prior to delivery. >>>> >>>> It can sometimes take a LOT of pressure to get the thing into the hole >>>> properly. Ask them to do this for you, since "it hasn't been right >>>> since I bought the car and is giving me problems. I would do it but I >>>> don't want to break it." If they don't usher you to the detailing >>>> department where this is done, tell them you're going to call Customer >>>> Care and ask them what you should do, all things in consideration. It >>>> may have been "made in Japan", which it was, and it doesn't have the >>>> recall in effect on it, but it is still a safety hazard and the thing >>>> should have been installed properly in the first place. >>>> >>>> BTW, where are you, since your dealer is a jackass and sounds like a >>>> good place to avoid? It will take them all of 45 seconds to install >>>> this properly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Exactly, I didn't want to break the damn thing by taking a hammer to >>> it. It's plastic after all. After posting this is when I decided taking >>> it in is the proper course of action. I have no problem telling you the >>> name of the dealer as they kind of blew it today with me. It's >>> Humberston Beaverton Toyota in Beaverton OR. The thing is, I usually >>> like them. Free rides home on service days and free pickups at the end >>> of the day, really good, usually, service representatives. All in all >>> no problems since I bought the thing new in '05. But this I felt, >>> should have been addressed differently. >> >> >> A lot of the Toyota dealers that were owned by 'families' at one time >> are now owned by large companies that own numerous dealerships, and are >> basically run by the bean counters. It's too bad; my local dealer is >> owned by a 'family' of bean counters, but they still remember the old >> customers. Thank God for that. The other two in the area...UGH. >> >> $375 for 'processing fees' for paperwork that has to be done BY LAW >> anyway?!?!?! >> >> >>
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Feb 2010 15:10 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:24:30 -0500, IYM wrote: > Derek Gee wrote: >> "Picasso" <picasso.ng(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:ab83dee2-35ca-4ff3-96dd-294d9f3d2055(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> On Feb 19, 2:04 pm, Neo <residualselfimage1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Feb 16, 8:10 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This fellow knew what to do to bring his car to a screeching halt. >>>> here are some videos - it should work with any car with a on-off >>>> button >>>> >>>> How to stop a Car if the accelerator sticks Consumer >>>> Reports/ABChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT07_JbnKWQ&feature=related >>>> >>>> 1. apply constant pressure to the brake 2. set the transmission to >>>> neutral while >>>> still pressing the breaks >>>> 3. when the car stop - press the on-off >>>> button for over 3 second to turn off the car >>>> >>>> ========= >>>> >>>> Is Toyota's Stuck Throttle Problem Real? And What can you do >>>> Dan Edmunds. Edmunds.com >>>> Videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u53oRzkRIbY&feature=related >>>> >>>> Bottom hinged accelerator are okay but top hinged accelerator might >>>> get obstructed by all weather mats. Also several methods to stop a >>>> runaway car. >>> >>> What the hell is an on off button?? >>> >>> Put the car in neutral, stop, easy as that? >> >> Apparently not. The lady who testified to Congress today about her >> runaway Lexus stated that she did put the car in neutral and it didn't >> stop, even with both feet on the brake pedal. >> >> Derek >> >> >> > In all seriousness, I didn't read her transcript, but I can see the above > might happen IF (big if), she had been trying to stop her vehicle for a > bit before she threw it in neutral. She could have overheated and glazed > the brakes trying to stop it before it occurred to her to throw it in > neutral...Just a thought... I'm thinking she had the shifter in Sport and didn't know she had to get it back through the gate to Neutral. Familirization with an automobile is key. They write owners manuals just for that purpose! Imagine that!
From: E. Meyer on 24 Feb 2010 16:27 On 2/24/10 2:10 PM, in article hm413s$qkn$18(a)news.eternal-september.org, "Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:24:30 -0500, IYM wrote: > >> Derek Gee wrote: >>> "Picasso" <picasso.ng(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:ab83dee2-35ca-4ff3-96dd-294d9f3d2055(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Feb 19, 2:04 pm, Neo <residualselfimage1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Feb 16, 8:10 pm, Hachiroku ?$B%O%A%m%/?(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This fellow knew what to do to bring his car to a screeching halt. >>>>> here are some videos - it should work with any car with a on-off >>>>> button >>>>> >>>>> How to stop a Car if the accelerator sticks Consumer >>>>> Reports/ABChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT07_JbnKWQ&feature=related >>>>> >>>>> 1. apply constant pressure to the brake 2. set the transmission to >>>>> neutral while >>>>> still pressing the breaks >>>>> 3. when the car stop - press the on-off >>>>> button for over 3 second to turn off the car >>>>> >>>>> ========= >>>>> >>>>> Is Toyota's Stuck Throttle Problem Real? And What can you do >>>>> Dan Edmunds. Edmunds.com >>>>> Videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u53oRzkRIbY&feature=related >>>>> >>>>> Bottom hinged accelerator are okay but top hinged accelerator might >>>>> get obstructed by all weather mats. Also several methods to stop a >>>>> runaway car. >>>> >>>> What the hell is an on off button?? >>>> >>>> Put the car in neutral, stop, easy as that? >>> >>> Apparently not. The lady who testified to Congress today about her >>> runaway Lexus stated that she did put the car in neutral and it didn't >>> stop, even with both feet on the brake pedal. >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>> >> In all seriousness, I didn't read her transcript, but I can see the above >> might happen IF (big if), she had been trying to stop her vehicle for a >> bit before she threw it in neutral. She could have overheated and glazed >> the brakes trying to stop it before it occurred to her to throw it in >> neutral...Just a thought... > > I'm thinking she had the shifter in Sport and didn't know she had to get > it back through the gate to Neutral. > > Familirization with an automobile is key. They write owners manuals just > for that purpose! Imagine that! > > > Really?! So that's why they write them. Here all this time I thought it was just to provide a place to put all that asinine legalistic CYA (i.e. It is potentially unsafe to back up without first looking behind the car).
From: Mike Hunter on 24 Feb 2010 18:14 Ya Think? "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hm413s$qkn$18(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:24:30 -0500, IYM wrote: > >> Derek Gee wrote: >>> "Picasso" <picasso.ng(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:ab83dee2-35ca-4ff3-96dd-294d9f3d2055(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Feb 19, 2:04 pm, Neo <residualselfimage1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Feb 16, 8:10 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This fellow knew what to do to bring his car to a screeching halt. >>>>> here are some videos - it should work with any car with a on-off >>>>> button >>>>> >>>>> How to stop a Car if the accelerator sticks Consumer >>>>> Reports/ABChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT07_JbnKWQ&feature=related >>>>> >>>>> 1. apply constant pressure to the brake 2. set the transmission to >>>>> neutral while >>>>> still pressing the breaks >>>>> 3. when the car stop - press the on-off >>>>> button for over 3 second to turn off the car >>>>> >>>>> ========= >>>>> >>>>> Is Toyota's Stuck Throttle Problem Real? And What can you do >>>>> Dan Edmunds. Edmunds.com >>>>> Videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u53oRzkRIbY&feature=related >>>>> >>>>> Bottom hinged accelerator are okay but top hinged accelerator might >>>>> get obstructed by all weather mats. Also several methods to stop a >>>>> runaway car. >>>> >>>> What the hell is an on off button?? >>>> >>>> Put the car in neutral, stop, easy as that? >>> >>> Apparently not. The lady who testified to Congress today about her >>> runaway Lexus stated that she did put the car in neutral and it didn't >>> stop, even with both feet on the brake pedal. >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>> >> In all seriousness, I didn't read her transcript, but I can see the above >> might happen IF (big if), she had been trying to stop her vehicle for a >> bit before she threw it in neutral. She could have overheated and glazed >> the brakes trying to stop it before it occurred to her to throw it in >> neutral...Just a thought... > > I'm thinking she had the shifter in Sport and didn't know she had to get > it back through the gate to Neutral. > > Familirization with an automobile is key. They write owners manuals just > for that purpose! Imagine that! > > >
From: Mike Hunter on 24 Feb 2010 18:15
Not to mention illegal "E. Meyer" <e.p.meyer(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:C7AAF5E7.17EC4%e.p.meyer(a)verizon.net... > On 2/24/10 2:10 PM, in article hm413s$qkn$18(a)news.eternal-september.org, > "Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:24:30 -0500, IYM wrote: >> >>> Derek Gee wrote: >>>> "Picasso" <picasso.ng(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ab83dee2-35ca-4ff3-96dd-294d9f3d2055(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Feb 19, 2:04 pm, Neo <residualselfimage1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Feb 16, 8:10 pm, Hachiroku ?$B%O%A%m%/?(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This fellow knew what to do to bring his car to a screeching halt. >>>>>> here are some videos - it should work with any car with a on-off >>>>>> button >>>>>> >>>>>> How to stop a Car if the accelerator sticks Consumer >>>>>> Reports/ABChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT07_JbnKWQ&feature=related >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. apply constant pressure to the brake 2. set the transmission to >>>>>> neutral while >>>>>> still pressing the breaks >>>>>> 3. when the car stop - press the on-off >>>>>> button for over 3 second to turn off the car >>>>>> >>>>>> ========= >>>>>> >>>>>> Is Toyota's Stuck Throttle Problem Real? And What can you do >>>>>> Dan Edmunds. Edmunds.com >>>>>> Videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u53oRzkRIbY&feature=related >>>>>> >>>>>> Bottom hinged accelerator are okay but top hinged accelerator might >>>>>> get obstructed by all weather mats. Also several methods to stop a >>>>>> runaway car. >>>>> >>>>> What the hell is an on off button?? >>>>> >>>>> Put the car in neutral, stop, easy as that? >>>> >>>> Apparently not. The lady who testified to Congress today about her >>>> runaway Lexus stated that she did put the car in neutral and it didn't >>>> stop, even with both feet on the brake pedal. >>>> >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> In all seriousness, I didn't read her transcript, but I can see the >>> above >>> might happen IF (big if), she had been trying to stop her vehicle for a >>> bit before she threw it in neutral. She could have overheated and >>> glazed >>> the brakes trying to stop it before it occurred to her to throw it in >>> neutral...Just a thought... >> >> I'm thinking she had the shifter in Sport and didn't know she had to get >> it back through the gate to Neutral. >> >> Familirization with an automobile is key. They write owners manuals just >> for that purpose! Imagine that! >> >> >> > Really?! So that's why they write them. Here all this time I thought it > was > just to provide a place to put all that asinine legalistic CYA (i.e. It is > potentially unsafe to back up without first looking behind the car). > |