From: C. E. White on

"DH" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message

> Since about 20% of Camrys are still built in Japan, this implies the
> existence of Camrys that are 100% American.

In February, around 23% of the Camrys sold in the US were imported.
This implies to me that the US assembled Camrys must be close to 100%
domestic content (US + Canada) and that imported Camry must have >5%
domestic content as well, or the labels are just wrong.

> So, if I want an American car, I should run down to my Toyota dealer
> and simply pick one that was assembled here.

Seems that way, as long as you are buying a Camry.

> Thanks for the tip.
>
> [snip]
>> My opinion is that he Domestic Content Labels are not particularly
>> useful, and that they may actually be misleading. They do not
>> reflect the domestic content of the actual car you are looking at,
>> but rather they are the average domestic content for cars in that
>> particular car line. Regardless of their usefulness, here is what
>> the labels claim for various car lines:
>
> To put a label on the car that says, "the domestic content of THIS
> car is XX%" would require additional work that some car companies
> probably don't want to do. Wouldn't surprise me if their lobbyists
> worked against such a requirement.

With the sort of inventory control that modern manufacturers are
using, I suspect it could be calculated easily and added to the
standard window sticker with minimal effort. But given the way
"domestic content" is defined, I am not sure it would be meaningful.

.....

>> Ford Fusion / Mercury Milan / Lincoln MKZ - 50%
>
> Are ALL of those assembled in Mexico or is there a US factory, too?
> The Hermosillo plant is profiled in the "Bold Moves" video on the
> Fusion but whether or not there's also a US plant is unclear.

There is no US factory at this time. It seems that the Fusions are
selling well, so maybe Ford will have to reconsider having them all
built in Mexico.

>
>> Ford Crown Victoria / Mercury Grand Marquis / Lincoln Town Car -
>> 90%
>>
>> One thing I found interesting was the sparce number of Ford Fusions
>> on the lots at Ford dealers. I stopped at two Ford dealers and
>> there was a total of 6 Fusions on the lots. I assume this means
>> they are selling really well.
>>
>> Ed
>
> Now, if the run of the mill Camry is 80% domestic and most are also
> assembled here, is that car more or less "American" than a Fusion
> built of 50% non-US parts that is then assembled in Mexico?

I'd say that the Camry has many more hours of "US American" labor per
car than the Fusion. As to where the money eventually goes, I have no
idea. I do think it is inherently unfair to treat Mexico different
than Canada. If a Fusion was built in Canada by Canadian workers, the
domestic content would probably be over 90%.

Ed


From: Mike Hunter on
Tell us again why you believe GM and Toyotas made in the GM/Toyota plant as
well as the Nissans and Hondas made in the US have a '1' yet Toyota who
began assembling in other plants in the US long before either Honda and
Nissan 'when they ran out of VINs" were assigned a 4 and 5? ;)


mike




"Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> The SAE does not give away the list of WMIs, but NHTSA does. I think I
>> can now understand why Toyota doesn't get to use "1T." Here is a list of
>> "1T" WMIs:
>>
>
> <...>
>
> I was wondering where the list is. Could you post the URL?
>
> So does this squash the conjecture that the first digit of the VIN has
> something to do with US content?
>
> Jeff


From: C. E. White on

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Tell us again why you believe GM and Toyotas made in the GM/Toyota plant
> as well as the Nissans and Hondas made in the US have a '1' yet Toyota who
> began assembling in other plants in the US long before either Honda and
> Nissan 'when they ran out of VINs" were assigned a 4 and 5? ;)

Maybe because Toyota wanted it that way? Or maybe because Toyota wanted free
use of the third position to indicate some other characteristic. A lot of 1T
WIMs were taken before Toyota began setting up manufacturing operations in
this country. posted the list of exiting 1T WIMs earlier, but I suppose you
didn't bother to look at it. Here it is again -

WMI MFG NAME PRODUCT TYPE MODEL
1T0 TRAIL-RITE INC TRAILER
1T0 TRAIL-RITE BOAT TRAILERS TRAILER
1T7 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC. BUS
1T7 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC BUS
1T7/1T8 "THOMAS BUILT BUSES, INC." BUS "PUSHER, FC"
1T8 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC BUS
1T8 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC. INCOMPLETE VEHICLE
1T9 TRAILER HITCH CO. TRAILER
1T9 "TIMPTE, INC." TRAILER
1T9 TITAN FABRICATION & WELDING TRAILER
1T9 "THIELE MANUFACTURIN, LLC , INC." TRAILER
1T9 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9 "CAMIT INDUSTRIES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/ COMMERCIAL BODY SALES & MAN CO TRAILER
1T9/006 TRI-STAR TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/013 TRIAD TRAILERS LLC TRAILER
1T9/016 PERFORMANCE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/016 PERFORMANCE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/030 "TUFF BOY, INC." TRAILER
1T9/031 TRUCK EQUIPMENT CORPORATION TRUCK BALE WAGON
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH CO. TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH CO. INC. TRAILER
1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER
1T9/050 "TRAVEL UNITS, INC." TRAILER SEE MEMO
1T9/050 "TRAVEL UNITS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/054 TEAM FENEX LTD TRAILER
1T9/054 TEAM FENEX LTD. TRAILER UTILITY
1T9/054 TEAM FENEX TRAILER
1T9/054 TEAM FENEX TRAILER
1T9/057 TOMCO MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/057 TOMCO MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/057 TOMCO MFG. CO. TRAILER
1T9/060 "INTERNATIONAL TANK-TRAILER,INC" TRAILER SEE MEMO
1T9/060 "INTERNATIONAL TANK-TRAILER,INC" TRAILER TANK
1T9/067 TETON HOMES TRAILER
1T9/067 TETON INTERNATIONAL
1T9/067 TETON HOMES TRAILER PARK
1T9/068 THOMPSON TANK & MFG. CO. INC. TRAILER
1T9/068 "THOMPSON TANK & MFG. CO.,INC." TRAILER
1T9/070 TOMMY'S TRAILER SALES TRAILER
1T9/072 "THE TRAILER COMPANY, INC." TRAILER
1T9/081 TOM COSTELLO TRAILER
1T9/090 "TPD TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/090 TPD TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/090 DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLE TRAILER TPD
1T9/101 T-N-T WELDING TRAILER
1T9/101 "TIGER TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/103 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/114 TRANSTECH LTD. TRAILER "UTILITY,FLATBED"
1T9/118 "TRAILBOSS TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/120 "TAMPA TRAILERWORKS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/120 "TAMPA TRAILERWORKS, INC." TRAILER "5TH WH, TAGALNG"
1T9/121 TAYLOR-WHARTON TRAILER CRYOGENIC
1T9/123 TRAILER PLUS TRAILER
1T9/123 "TYLER COACH MFG., INC." TRAILER
1T9/123 "TYLER COACH MFG., INC." TRAILER SEE MEMO
1T9/124 T-ROME ENT. TRAILER
1T9/125 TWIN CITY WELDING&TRAILER SALE TRAILER "FTBED,BOAT,CAR"
1T9/130 "TRAVEL LINE, INC." TRAILER
1T9/135 TAC TRAILERS TRAILER BOAT-CATAMARAN
1T9/137 TODD'S WELDING SERVICE TRAILER
1T9/139 TRAILER LTD. TRAILER
1T9/139 TRAILERS LTD. TRAILER
1T9/147 "INTL. TRANSIT SYSTEMS,LTD." BUS
1T9/148 "THOR TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/148 "THOR TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER UTILITY
1T9/153 TRAILER PRODUCTS OF C.N.Y. TRAILER
1T9/154 TEXAS MFG. TRAILER BOAT
1T9/156 TFS CUSTOM FABRICATING & MFG. TRAILER UTILITY
1T9/160 TRIPLE J. TRAILER SALES TRAILER UTILITY
1T9/163 THERMO CONCEPTS TRAILER
1T9/165 TRIANGLE HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS TRAILER
1T9/168 TAILORED TRAILORS TRAILER MOTORCYCLE
1T9/175 TONKAWA TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/177 TELEX TRAILER
1T9/181 TRAILER WORLD TRAILER
1T9/187 TRAILER DISTRIBUTORS INC. TRAILER
1T9/196 T.D.TRAILERS TRAILER STANDARD
1T9/198 "CP DEVELOPMENT, INC. dba TRICKER TRAILERS" TRAILER
1T9/198 TRICKER TRAILERS INC. TRAILER
1T9/199 TIGER LINE EQUIPMENT INC. TRAILER SNOWMOBILE
1T9/199 TIGER LINE EQUIPMENT INC. TRAILER
1T9/204 "TARASPORT TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/204 "TRANS PORT TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/204 "TARASPORT TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/206 SAWYER SALES & SERVICE INC. TRAILER
1T9/210 TIMEOUT TRAILERS INC TRAILER
1T9/211 TITAN TRAILER MFG. TRAILER
1T9/211 TITAN TRAILER MFG. TRAILER
1T9/214 TBG EQUIPMENT DIVISION TRAILER
1T9/221 TRAIL RITE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/221 TRAIL RITE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/226 T&O TRAILER MANUFACTURER TRAILER
1T9/226 T & O TRAILER MANUFACTURER TRAILER
1T9/227 TERRY'S TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/227 TERRY'S TRAILER TRAILER
1T9/229 X-TEN
1T9/230 T & E ENTERPRISES OF HERSHER TRAILER
1T9/230 T & E ENTER.OF HERSHER INC. TRAILER
1T9/230 "DIVERSIFIED METALS, INC." TRAILER TAGALONG
1T9/231 "TOP ENTERPRISES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/231 "TOP ENTERPRISES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/233 "THRU-AIR, INC."
1T9/237 TRIPLE B&J TRAILERS MFG INC TRAILER
1T9/237 TRIPLEB&J TRAILERS MFG. INC TRAILER
1T9/240 "TRIANGLE MFG., AND PUMP CO."
1T9/241 T.W.G. MACHINE INC. TRAILER
1T9/242 TEXAS TRAILER TRAILER
1T9/244 TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT MFG. & SAL
1T9/244 "TRANSPORT EQUIP., MFG., & SALE" TRAILER
1T9/247 "TRAVIS BODY & TRAILER, INC." TRAILER
1T9/247 "TRAVIS BODY & TRAILER, INC."
1T9/247 "TRAVIS BODY & TRAILER, INC." TRAILER 38'
1T9/249 T-ROME EWT. TRAILER
1T9/249 TRAILS WEST MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/250 "TRAILERS-R-US, INC." TRAILER
1T9/251 TRI-CO SPECIALTIES TRAILER
1T9/252 T.D.S. CORP. TRAILER
1T9/252 T.D.S. CORPORATION
1T9/252 TDS CORP. TRAILER
1T9/254 TIMBERLINE ENTERPRISES TRAILER
1T9/260 TRANSLIFT SYSTEMS INC. TRAILER
1T9/268 TSE INTERNATIONAL INC TRAILER
1T9/268 "TSE INTERNATIONAL, INC." TRAILER
1T9/277 TEMPLES TRAILER SALES INC. TRAILER
1T9/277 "TESH & SONS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/279 TNT DESIGNS TRAILER
1T9/280 TECHNICAL STRUCTURES INC. BUS
1T9/281 TEMPLES TRAILER SALES INC. TRAILER
1T9/282 TRAILERS UNLIMITED
1T9/285 TERRA TRAILERS & TRUCK SALES TRAILER
1T9/286 TOTAL LIVESTOCK CONCEPTS TRAILER TANDEM AXLE
1T9/287 TEMPLES' TRAILER SALES INC. TRAILER FLATBED
1T9/287 TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS TRAILER
1T9/291 TRACK MASTERS TRAILER
1T9/293 TRITON TRAILER MFG INC. TRAILER
1T9/293 TRITON INC. TRAILER
1T9/294 "TEXAS TRAILER SERVICE, CO." TRAILER
1T9/296 TRAILER TECHNOLOGIES TRAILER HYDRAULIC EXPAN
1T9/299 TODD GEISERT WELDING & TRAILER TRAILER
1T9/309 "T & J MANUFACTURING, INC." TRAILER
1T9/311 "TRI-DEN, INC." TRAILER
1T9/312 TOTE'EM TRAILRIGHT TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/322 TRAILRITE TRAILER UTILITY
1T9/328 TOM'S SALES AND SERVICE TRAILER
1T9/329 TEXOMA TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/331 TOY TRANSPORT TRAILER
1T9/332 TEAUX-VAC TRAILER LOT SWEEPERS
1T9/332 TWIN RIVERS MFG TRAILER
1T9/334 TRIPLE M. TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/335 TRAILERBOY TRAILER
1T9/336 TOOL MASTER TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/336 TOOL MASTER TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/338 THERMAL TREK INC TRAILER
1T9/338 "THERMAL TREK, INC" TRAILER INVOICE #3168
1T9/338 "THERMAL TREK, INC." TRAILER
1T9/338 "THERMAL TREK, INC." TRAILER
1T9/342 "T & D METAL WORKS, INC." TRAILER "UTILITITY, STD."
1T9/350 TOP NOTCH TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/352 SAN-JO TRAILER MFG. TRAILER
1T9/359 "TRAILS END MANUFACTURING, INC." TRAILER
1T9/364 TROPICAL TRAILERS OF LAKELAND TRAILER
1T9/366 "TECHWELD EQUIPMENT CO., INC." TRAILER
1T9/369 TRUCKS UNLIMITED TRUCK
1T9/370 TRAILERS N MORE TRAILER
1T9/372 IMPERIAL TRAILER MFG. & SALES TRAILER STANDARD
1T9/373 FOUNDRY EQUIPMENT COMPANY TRAILER LIVESTOCK
1T9/376 TODD'S WELDING SERVICE TRAILER
1T9/376 TODDS WELDING SERVICE INC TRAILER
1T9/380 TERMINAL SERVICE CO TRAILER
1T9/384 "TRAILER INDUSTRIES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/385 TOMAHAWK TRAILERS TRAILER "HORSE,GOOSENECK"
1T9/386 TL ENTERPRISES TRAILER "FLATBED,UTILITY"
1T9/392 THOMAS FABRICATING TRAILER UTILITY
1T9/395 TAYLOR TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/396 TEX-MEX TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/400 TENSAS MACHINE & MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/402 TCS CABLE INC TRAILER
1T9/405 THOMPSON TANK INC TRAILER
1T9/406 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER
1T9/434 THE SHOP TRAILER
1T9/436 TRAIL-RITE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/440 TITAN MOTORCYCLE CO OF AMERICA MOTORCYCLE CO NAME CHANGE
1T9/440 TITAN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY OF AM MOTORCYCLE
1T9/450 THOR INDUSTRIES WEST TRAILER
1T9/450 THOR INDUSTRIES WEST TRAILER
1T9/473 "TWAMCO TRAILER MANUFACTURING, INC." TRAILER
1T9/491 TEXOMA UTILITY EQUIP INC TRAILER
1T9/495 TWISTER TRAILER MAN TRAILER
1T9/497 TRIPLE B TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/501 TL ENBGINEERING TRAILER
1T9/506 "TOP NOTCH TRAILERS, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/508 "TRI-ONE, INC." MOTORCYCLE TRIKE
1T9/509 TRAILER USA TRAILER
1T9/512 TEXAS TRAILER COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/514 TRUCK HOIST SYSTEMS TRAILER
1T9/518 TRIPLE J CUSTOM TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/519 TRAILERS UNLIMITED TRAILER
1T9/520 TIMBERWOLF MANUFACTURING CORP. TRAILER
1T9/522 TRINITY TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/524 "TRI-COUNTY MANUFACTURING, INC." TRAILER
1T9/525 TONKAWA TRAILERS & STEEL FABRI TRAILER
1T9/529 TRAILERS USA TRAILER
1T9/530 "TWIN CITY TRAILER SALES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/534 TOW TRUE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/536 TRIAD ALUMINUM FABRICATION & SALES TRAILER
1T9/538 "THUNDER TRIKES, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/539 TEXAS TRAILERS INC. TRAILER
1T9/540 TAKE 3 TRAILERS INC TRAILER
1T9/541 "TRACKSTAR TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/543 TRAILER PLUS TRAILER
1T9/544 TAYLOR AND SONS CUSTOM BUILT TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/545 TRAIL CRAFT TRAILER
1T9/546 "BOA-MACK, INC." TRAILER
1T9/553 "THUNDERBOLT ENTERPRISES, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/560 "TORSION TRAILERS, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/564 DARK DAYZ CHOPPERS MOTORCYCLE
1T9/566 "TRAILERS EXPRESS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/567 TMC GROUP INC (DBA INNOVATOR TRAILERS) TRAILER
1T9/569 THOMPSON STEEL SERVICES TRAILER
1T9/572 TXC MFG. CO. TRAILER
1T9/576 T.H.E. MACHINE COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/577 T AND G SALES TRAILER
1T9/578 TISDELL'S IMPLEMENTS TRAILER
1T9/580 "TRUCK WORLD, INC." TRAILER
1T9/582 "TRANSPORTATION TECHNIQUES, LLC" BUS
1T9/583 TAYLOR'S MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/588 TREMCAR TRAILER
1T9/589 "TRAVELWISE, INC." TRAILER
1T9/592 TRITON POWER LIFTS TRAILER
1T9/594 T&M CUSTOM TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/595 THE FINEST BOX TRAILER
1T9/596 TRACE TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/599 T & T WELDING & REPAIR TRAILER
1T9/600 TORQUE MANUFACTURING L.L.C. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/601 "TRAIL TECH, L.L.C" TRAILER
1T9/602 THE AEROFLO TRAILER COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/604 T&D TRAILER SUPPLIES TRAILER
1T9/605 T.J.R. ENTERPRISES TRAILER
1T9/606 "THRU-AIR TRAILER, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/610 TIM'S REPAIR TRAILER
1T9/611 TRAVEL LITE INC. TRAILER
1T9/612 TEX-NEX TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/614 "TRAIL MATE PRODUCTS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/615 TRAMONT CORPORATION TRAILER
1T9/617 TAYLOR MADE EQUIPMENT COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/621 "TRAIL MAKER TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/622 THE HAMBY COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/623 THE KBH CORPORATION TRAILER
1T9/626 TRUNKS ON WHEELS TRAILER
1T9/627 THURSTON MANUFACTURING COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/629 "T&M CUSTOM TRAILERS, LLC." TRAILER
1T9/630 "TRAILER TECH, INC." TRAILER
1T9/631 TUFF BUILT TRAILERS OF OKLAHOMA TRAILER
1T9/632 TOE-ME TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/634 "THOMPSON PUMP & MANUFACTURING CO., INC." TRAILER
1T9/636 "TROTTERS MANUFACTURING, INC." TRAILER
1T9/639 THE SHOP TRAILER
1T9/641 TRIPLE R TRAILER
1T9/646 "TRANSFORMER TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/647 THE SANDBAGGER CORPORATION TRAILER
1T9/648 TERRADYNE EQUIPMENT COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/649 TULSA RIG IRON INC TRAILER
1T9/650 TRIPLE A MANUFACTURING CO TRAILER
1T9/651 "THE MHC GROUP, INC." TRAILER
1T9/651 "THE MHC GROUP, INC." TRAILER
1T9/653 TEXOMA WASTE CONTROL TRAILER
1T9/654 TUFF MFG. TRAILER
1T9/654 TUFF MFG. TRAILER
1T9/656 "TRINITY TRAILER MFG., INC." TRAILER
1T9/658 "TRANS-TECH INDUSTRIES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/661 "TEAM SPIRIT TRAILERS OF ELKHART, INC." TRAILER
1T9/663 "TMP TRUCK & TRAILER, LP" TRAILER
1T9/667 THE PERFECTION COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/667 THE PERFECTION COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/668 TRAILMASTER INC TRAILER
1T9/669 "TARGET TRAILER MFG., CO." TRAILER
1T9/673 TOMCO CONVERSIONS INC. TRAILER
1T9/674 TUFF/LUGG INC. TRAILER
1T9/675 "TNT ALUMINUM TRAILERS, INC" TRAILER
1T9/675 TNT ALUMINUM TRAILERS INC TRAILER
1T9/677 T&T SALES OF ELBERTON INC TRAILER
1T9/682 TEKSOL INC TRAILER
1T9/684 "SWEETMAN ENTERPRISES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/684 TRACY TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/686 TRAILER FORCE TRAILER
1T9/687 TRAILERS CRANE TRAILER
1T9/689 TRUKMAKER CORP. TRAILER
1T9/690 ADVENTURE SPORTS PRODUCTS INC TRAILER
1T9/694 TJC INC TRAILER
1T9/695 TAYLOR TIDE-LAND TRAILERS LLC TRAILER
1T9/696 TROPIC TRAILER INC TRAILER
1T9/697 TENTRAX TRAILER
1T9/698 TROUT CREEK ENTERPRISES INC TRAILER
1T9/699 TUFF E NUFF MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/700 TARRANT MANUFACTURING CO. INC TRUCK
1T9/702 T& R USED CARS INC TRAILER
1T9/704 TRAMS INTERNATIONAL TRAILER
1T9/704 TRAMS INTERNATIONAL TRAILER
1T9/704 TRAMS INTERNATIONAL TRAILER
1T9/705 TRIPLE J ENTERPRISES TRAILER
1T9/706 TRIPLE M MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/707 THE EGG RANCH OF OREGON TRAILER
1T9/708 TRAILDUSTER TRAILERS INC TRAILER
1T9/709 TERRY'S TRAAILERS INC TRAILER
1T9/712 TRAILER EXPRESS TRAILER
1T9/713 THE FAB SHOP TRAILER
1T9/716 THE CONCRETE EDGE COMPANY TRAILER
1T9/716 THE CONCRETE EDGE COMPANY TRAILER
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1T9/717 THUNDER MOUNTAIN CUSTOM CYCLES INC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/717 THUNDER MOUNTAIN CUSTOM CYCLES INC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/717 THUNDER MOUNTAIN CUSTOM CYCLES INC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/717 THUNDER MOUNTAIN CUSTON CYCLE INC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/717 "THUNDER MOUNTAIN CUSTOM CYCLES, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/718 CANYON TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/719 TROXELL COMPANY INC TRAILER
1T9/720 TUG HILL TRAILER MFG TRAILER
1T9/721 TRELAN MANFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/721 TRELAN MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/722 TLC OF TX INC TRAILER
1T9/723 TIMELEE'S TRAILER
1T9/723 TIMELEE'S TRAILER
1T9/726 TIGER TRUCK LLC LOW SPEED VEHICLE
1T9/730 TRANSCOR TRAILER
1T9/731 TRAILER & TRUCK TRAILER
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1T9/736 TEXAS PRECISION TRAILER
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1T9/751 T & D ENTERPRISE INC TRAILER
1T9/752 TABOO MOTORCYCLE COMPANY LLC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/753 GALAXY TRAILER MFG TRAILER
1T9/755 TRAIL-A-LONG MANUFACTURING TRAILER
1T9/757 "TMS, INC. (THE MACHINE SHOP INC)" TRAILER
1T9/757 "TMS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/758 "RIVER PRODUCTS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/758 "TALON TRAILERS DIVISION OF RIVER PRODUCTS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/759 TOP TOW TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/761 TAILGATER PARTY TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/761 TAILGATER PARTY TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/762 TRAILER SALES AND SUPPLY OF CHATTAHOOCHEE TRAILER
1T9/763 TECHSUN TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/764 THORP EQUIPMENT INC TRAILER
1T9/764 "THORP EQUIPMENT, INC." TRAILER
1T9/765 "TOW-ME TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER UTILITY TRAILER
1T9/765 "TOW-ME TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/766 "TWADDLE MANUFACTURING, INC." TRAILER
1T9/767 TM TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/769 MOBILITY SOLUTIONS LLC DBA TAILGATOR TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/770 T BAR J TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/775 "TECHNOLOGY PLUS TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/776 "TMC TRAILERS, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/777 TRAILERS + TRAILER
1T9/779 CRARY A DIV OF TERRAMARC INDUSTRIES INC. TRAILER
1T9/779 CRARY A DIV OF TERRAMARC INDUSTRIES INC. TRAILER FLAT BED
1T9/780 TRIPLE-B TRUCK BODY TRAILER
1T9/781 TAYLOR POWER SYSTEMS TRAILER
1T9/784 "T & D MANUFACTURING, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/785 TMC DESIGN CORPORATION TRAILER
1T9/788 TBM MFG. TRAILER
1T9/789 TEXAS TRUCK AND TRAILER TRAILER
1T9/795 TUFF BUILT TRAILERS L.L.C. TRAILER
1T9/796 "TNT CHOPPERS, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/796 "TNT CHOPPERS, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/797 THE THIRD WHEEL TRIKES & BIKES MOTORCYCLE
1T9/798 TRI STATE CHOPPERS L.L.C. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/799 TLC MANUFACTURING INC. TRAILER
1T9/801 TOP DECK TRAILERS AND MOTORHOME INC. TRAILER
1T9/802 "THAT E.V., LLC" LOW SPEED VEHICLE
1T9/804 THATTA ENTERPRISES LLC TRAILER
1T9/805 "F & K PARTNERS, LLP dba TRIPLE TOY TRAILERS" TRAILER
1T9/806 TEMPEST CYCLES MOTORCYCLE
1T9/807 TRAILERS BY MIKE TRAILER
1T9/810 T & S CYCLES MOTORCYCLE
1T9/811 THOMPSON CHOPPERS INC. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/812 "TNT MOTO CORPORATION, INC." TRAILER
1T9/813 "TOUCH ""A"" CLASS MFG." TRAILER
1T9/814 "T. & W. PEASE, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/815 THUNDERDOME ENTERPRISES MOTORCYCLE
1T9/818 THUMPER MOTORCYCLE COMPANY MOTORCYCLE
1T9/823 "TURNING POINT TRAILER MFG, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/825 THE TICO MANUFACTURING DIVISION OF TERMINAL TRACTOR
1T9/827 "TNT TRAILER, INC." TRAILER
1T9/828 "T2 SERVICES, INC." TRAILER
1T9/830 TAKATI MOTORCYCLES LLC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/831 "TCB CHOPPERS, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/833 "TRIVAN TRUCK BODY, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/834 PHANTOM CYCLE MOTORCYCLE
1T9/835 TDS DISPOSAL SERVICES LLC TRAILER
1T9/837 TAYLOR MADE CHOPPERS INC. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/838 TRAILER DADDY MFG. TRAILER
1T9/840 TOMAHAWK CUSTOM CHOPPERS MOTORCYCLE
1T9/841 TULSA TRIKES MOTORCYCLE
1T9/845 "THRU-AIR TRAILER, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/846 "THREE FEATHERS MANUFACTURING, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/846 "THREE FEATHERS MANUFACTURING, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/848 "TRAILMAN, INC." TRAILER
1T9/849 "TRAVEL-LITE, INC." TRAILER
1T9/850 TOTAL OUTDOOR ADVENTRUES TRAILER
1T9/851 "TOMMY BOY RACING, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/852 "TAILGATOR CONCEPTS, INC." TRAILER
1T9/856 "TJW WELDING, TRAILER SUPPLY & STEEL" TRAILER
1T9/857 THUNDER CHOPPER WORKS MOTORCYCLE
1T9/858 TOWER SOLUTIONS TRAILER
1T9/860 THUG CUSTOM CYCLES LLC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/873 "TMC, INC." TRAILER
1T9/876 TWISTED TWIN INC. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/878 TOW-RITE TRAILER
1T9/879 "THE TRAILER SHOP, INC." TRAILER
1T9/880 TANTRIC CYCLES LLC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/880 "TANTRIC CYCLES, LLC" MOTORCYCLE
1T9/882 TWISTED STEEL CHOPPERS MOTORCYCLE
1T9/883 "TEXAS CUSTOM CHOPPERS, INC." MOTORCYCLE
1T9/884 TIGHTLINE FISH HOUSE LLC TRAILER
1T9/888 TECHLINE ENGINEERING TRAILER
1T9/889 TRAVERTSON INC. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/889 TRAVERTSON INC. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/890 TIM NOBLES TRAILERS INC. TRAILER
1T9/891 TRAVEL-LITE INC. TRAILER
1T9/892 THUG CUSTOM CYCLES LLC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/893 TRAFCON INDUSTRIES INC. TRAILER
1T9/895 TAILWINDS TRAILERS TRAILER
1T9/899 TOMCAR USA INC. LOW SPEED VEHICLE
1T9/902 TOXIC CYCLES LLC MOTORCYCLE
1T9/904 "TRAILGRADER FABRICATION, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/905 "TRAILERMAKERS, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/906 "T-BUILT TRAILER COMPANY, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/910 THUNDER STRUCK CUSTOM BIKES INC. MOTORCYCLE
1T9/915 "TILMAN DUMP TRAILERS, LLC" TRAILER
1T9/AAA INTERNATIONAL STRUCTURES L.L.C. BUS
1T9/TPM TOTEM INN INC TRAILER
1T9\232 TERRY WRIGHT WELDING TRAILER
1TA "THEURER, INC." TRAILER
1TC COACHMEN INDUSTRIES TRUCK
1TC COACHMEN INDUSTRIES TRAILER
1TD "TIMPTE, INC." TRAILER
1TD "TIMPTE, INC." TRAILER
1TH "HILLSBORO INDUSTRIES, INC." TRAILER
1TH "HILLSBORO INDUSTRIES, INC." TRAILER
1TH HILLSBORO INDUSTRIES INC TRAILER
1TH HILLSBORO INDUSTRIES INC TRAILER
1TH HILLSBORO INDUSTRIES INC TRAILER REVISION
1TH HILLSBORO INDUSTRIES INC. TRAILER
1TK "TRIAL KING INDUSTRIES, INC" TRAILER
1TK "TRAIL KING INDUSTRIES, INC."
1TP "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 32 FB
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER SEE MEMO
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER "BOAT,CARGO,UTIL"
1TP TENNESSEE TRAILES TRAILER
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER
1TP "TENNESSEE TRAILERS, INC." TRAILER "BOAT,CARGO,UTIL"
1TP TENNESSEE TRAILERS INC. TRAILER
1TP TOMAHAWK CUSTOM CHOPPERS LLC MOTORCYCLE
1TR/169 "T.R. ARNOLD & ASSOCIATES, INC." TRAILER
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." 21FIB SIERRA
1TT TRANSCRAFT CORPORATION TRAILER
1TT VAN AMERICAN
1TT VAN AMERICAN TRAILER CAT 351
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER SIERRA CAT-546
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." SIERRA
1TT VAN AMERICAN INC. TRUCK
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 26 RB T-3847
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 30FK CAT-555
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 33SB
1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 34 GR T-4858
1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG. CORP. BUS
1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG. CO. BUS TRANSIT
1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG CORP BUS COMPANY SOLD TO
1TU TRANSPORTATION MANUFACTURING BUS VARIOUS
1TU TRANSPORTATION MANUFACTURING
1TU TRANPORTATION MFG CORP- TMC TRAILER
1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG. CORP. BUS
1TV "VIKING RECREATIONAL VEHICLES," TRAILER
1TY TEE NEE TRAILERS TRAILER
1TY TEE NEE TRAILERS TRAILER

Ed


From: Built_Well on
C. E. White wrote:

> ...but the third digits are all different.
========

Yeah, the third *character* has to be different
since WMIs have to be unique, but the third
*character* is not always a digit, as you mentioned
above ;-)

A little sloppy, but acceptable :-)



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From: C. E. White on

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:EOednWJKy5R0-WTYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d(a)ptd.net...

> The stamped part, or the steel, or the component parts, of any part
> that is ONLY finally assembled in the US or Canada from imported
> components it counted on the NAP label but does NOT count as US
> content. If the US content of base materials, steel, plastics,
> rubber, glass, engineering , R&D, etc., fall below 70% the VIN
> assigned is a '4,' if it falls below 40% the VIN assigned is a '5'

Mike,

I want to put this to bed once and for all. Last week I emailed the
WMI co-coordinator at the SAE and asked about how WMIs are assigned.
Here is the response:

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Prior to 1980 when WMI codes were reserved for US manufacturers (as
well as the rest of the world), there were three possible first
positions 1, 4 or 5. So, once the "1" in the first position was
depleted for available codes, the "4" was given to large, US
manufacturers. Once the "4" was depleted, we began to use the "5" in
the first position for large, US manufacturers.

The only assumation for the WMI code assignment is, which large US
manufacturer applied sooner for a WMI code than another. I randomly
checked my database for Ford Motor Company and they have codes
beginning with 1, 4 and 5.

If you have other questions, please let me know.


Cathy Douds
WMI Coordinator
SAE International
400 Commonwealth Drive
Warrendale, PA 15096-0001
724.772.8511
724.776.3087 - fax
douds(a)sae.org


-----Original Message-----
From: C. E. White
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:19 AM
To: Cathy Douds
Subject: Question about the nature of the WMI

Dear Ms. Douds,

I need your help in understanding the nature of the WMI portion of an
automotive VIN as applied to vehicles manufactured in the US. I've
noticed that US assembled vehicles don't always have a "1" as the
first digit of the VIN. Sometimes the first digit is a "4" or a "5".
What is the significance of the different first digits? Does this
digit indicate a difference in the domestic content of the vehicle?
Can I assume that a vehicle with a "1" for the first digit includes
more domestically produced content than a vehicle with a "4" or a "5".
Or, for instance, can I assume that a Toyota with a "5" for the first
digit of the VIN has such a low level of domestic content that it
does not qualify as a "domestic" vehicle?

I would appreciate you assistance in this matter.

Regards,

C. E. White
*****************************************************

Will you please stop claiming that WMIs are related to domestic
content.

Ed