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From: C. E. White on 19 Mar 2007 08:24 "DH" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message news:45f956fe$0$16330$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > "C. E. White" <cewhite(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > Since about 20% of Camrys are still built in Japan, this implies the > existence of Camrys that are 100% American. In February, around 23% of the Camrys sold in the US were imported. This implies to me that the US assembled Camrys must be close to 100% domestic content (US + Canada) and that imported Camry must have >5% domestic content as well, or the labels are just wrong. > So, if I want an American car, I should run down to my Toyota dealer > and simply pick one that was assembled here. Seems that way, as long as you are buying a Camry. > Thanks for the tip. > > [snip] >> My opinion is that he Domestic Content Labels are not particularly >> useful, and that they may actually be misleading. They do not >> reflect the domestic content of the actual car you are looking at, >> but rather they are the average domestic content for cars in that >> particular car line. Regardless of their usefulness, here is what >> the labels claim for various car lines: > > To put a label on the car that says, "the domestic content of THIS > car is XX%" would require additional work that some car companies > probably don't want to do. Wouldn't surprise me if their lobbyists > worked against such a requirement. With the sort of inventory control that modern manufacturers are using, I suspect it could be calculated easily and added to the standard window sticker with minimal effort. But given the way "domestic content" is defined, I am not sure it would be meaningful. ..... >> Ford Fusion / Mercury Milan / Lincoln MKZ - 50% > > Are ALL of those assembled in Mexico or is there a US factory, too? > The Hermosillo plant is profiled in the "Bold Moves" video on the > Fusion but whether or not there's also a US plant is unclear. There is no US factory at this time. It seems that the Fusions are selling well, so maybe Ford will have to reconsider having them all built in Mexico. > >> Ford Crown Victoria / Mercury Grand Marquis / Lincoln Town Car - >> 90% >> >> One thing I found interesting was the sparce number of Ford Fusions >> on the lots at Ford dealers. I stopped at two Ford dealers and >> there was a total of 6 Fusions on the lots. I assume this means >> they are selling really well. >> >> Ed > > Now, if the run of the mill Camry is 80% domestic and most are also > assembled here, is that car more or less "American" than a Fusion > built of 50% non-US parts that is then assembled in Mexico? I'd say that the Camry has many more hours of "US American" labor per car than the Fusion. As to where the money eventually goes, I have no idea. I do think it is inherently unfair to treat Mexico different than Canada. If a Fusion was built in Canada by Canadian workers, the domestic content would probably be over 90%. Ed
From: Mike Hunter on 19 Mar 2007 19:04 Tell us again why you believe GM and Toyotas made in the GM/Toyota plant as well as the Nissans and Hondas made in the US have a '1' yet Toyota who began assembling in other plants in the US long before either Honda and Nissan 'when they ran out of VINs" were assigned a 4 and 5? ;) mike "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:VqeLh.7260$Hb2.3965(a)trndny02... > >> >> The SAE does not give away the list of WMIs, but NHTSA does. I think I >> can now understand why Toyota doesn't get to use "1T." Here is a list of >> "1T" WMIs: >> > > <...> > > I was wondering where the list is. Could you post the URL? > > So does this squash the conjecture that the first digit of the VIN has > something to do with US content? > > Jeff
From: C. E. White on 19 Mar 2007 19:19 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:3vidnS4zRbyPimLYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > Tell us again why you believe GM and Toyotas made in the GM/Toyota plant > as well as the Nissans and Hondas made in the US have a '1' yet Toyota who > began assembling in other plants in the US long before either Honda and > Nissan 'when they ran out of VINs" were assigned a 4 and 5? ;) Maybe because Toyota wanted it that way? Or maybe because Toyota wanted free use of the third position to indicate some other characteristic. A lot of 1T WIMs were taken before Toyota began setting up manufacturing operations in this country. posted the list of exiting 1T WIMs earlier, but I suppose you didn't bother to look at it. Here it is again - WMI MFG NAME PRODUCT TYPE MODEL 1T0 TRAIL-RITE INC TRAILER 1T0 TRAIL-RITE BOAT TRAILERS TRAILER 1T7 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC. BUS 1T7 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC BUS 1T7/1T8 "THOMAS BUILT BUSES, INC." BUS "PUSHER, FC" 1T8 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC BUS 1T8 THOMAS BUILT BUSES INC. INCOMPLETE VEHICLE 1T9 TRAILER HITCH CO. TRAILER 1T9 "TIMPTE, INC." TRAILER 1T9 TITAN FABRICATION & WELDING TRAILER 1T9 "THIELE MANUFACTURIN, LLC , INC." TRAILER 1T9 TRAILERS PLUS TRAILER 1T9 "CAMIT INDUSTRIES, INC." TRAILER 1T9/ COMMERCIAL BODY SALES & MAN CO TRAILER 1T9/006 TRI-STAR TRAILERS TRAILER 1T9/013 TRIAD TRAILERS LLC TRAILER 1T9/016 PERFORMANCE TRAILERS TRAILER 1T9/016 PERFORMANCE TRAILERS TRAILER 1T9/030 "TUFF BOY, INC." TRAILER 1T9/031 TRUCK EQUIPMENT CORPORATION TRUCK BALE WAGON 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH CO. TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH CO. INC. TRAILER 1T9/040 TRAILER HITCH INC. TRAILER 1T9/050 "TRAVEL UNITS, INC." TRAILER SEE MEMO 1T9/050 "TRAVEL UNITS, INC." 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SIERRA 1TT VAN AMERICAN INC. TRUCK 1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 26 RB T-3847 1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 30FK CAT-555 1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 33SB 1TT "VAN AMERICAN, INC." TRAILER 34 GR T-4858 1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG. CORP. BUS 1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG. CO. BUS TRANSIT 1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG CORP BUS COMPANY SOLD TO 1TU TRANSPORTATION MANUFACTURING BUS VARIOUS 1TU TRANSPORTATION MANUFACTURING 1TU TRANPORTATION MFG CORP- TMC TRAILER 1TU TRANSPORTATION MFG. CORP. BUS 1TV "VIKING RECREATIONAL VEHICLES," TRAILER 1TY TEE NEE TRAILERS TRAILER 1TY TEE NEE TRAILERS TRAILER Ed
From: Built_Well on 18 Mar 2007 11:48 C. E. White wrote: > ...but the third digits are all different. ======== Yeah, the third *character* has to be different since WMIs have to be unique, but the third *character* is not always a digit, as you mentioned above ;-) A little sloppy, but acceptable :-) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: C. E. White on 22 Mar 2007 10:55
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:EOednWJKy5R0-WTYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > The stamped part, or the steel, or the component parts, of any part > that is ONLY finally assembled in the US or Canada from imported > components it counted on the NAP label but does NOT count as US > content. If the US content of base materials, steel, plastics, > rubber, glass, engineering , R&D, etc., fall below 70% the VIN > assigned is a '4,' if it falls below 40% the VIN assigned is a '5' Mike, I want to put this to bed once and for all. Last week I emailed the WMI co-coordinator at the SAE and asked about how WMIs are assigned. Here is the response: ******************************************************* Prior to 1980 when WMI codes were reserved for US manufacturers (as well as the rest of the world), there were three possible first positions 1, 4 or 5. So, once the "1" in the first position was depleted for available codes, the "4" was given to large, US manufacturers. Once the "4" was depleted, we began to use the "5" in the first position for large, US manufacturers. The only assumation for the WMI code assignment is, which large US manufacturer applied sooner for a WMI code than another. I randomly checked my database for Ford Motor Company and they have codes beginning with 1, 4 and 5. If you have other questions, please let me know. Cathy Douds WMI Coordinator SAE International 400 Commonwealth Drive Warrendale, PA 15096-0001 724.772.8511 724.776.3087 - fax douds(a)sae.org -----Original Message----- From: C. E. White Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:19 AM To: Cathy Douds Subject: Question about the nature of the WMI Dear Ms. Douds, I need your help in understanding the nature of the WMI portion of an automotive VIN as applied to vehicles manufactured in the US. I've noticed that US assembled vehicles don't always have a "1" as the first digit of the VIN. Sometimes the first digit is a "4" or a "5". What is the significance of the different first digits? Does this digit indicate a difference in the domestic content of the vehicle? Can I assume that a vehicle with a "1" for the first digit includes more domestically produced content than a vehicle with a "4" or a "5". Or, for instance, can I assume that a Toyota with a "5" for the first digit of the VIN has such a low level of domestic content that it does not qualify as a "domestic" vehicle? I would appreciate you assistance in this matter. Regards, C. E. White ***************************************************** Will you please stop claiming that WMIs are related to domestic content. Ed |