Information Gleaned from Domestic Content Labels
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From: Built_Well on 15 Mar 2007 12:58 C. E. White wrote: > The labels list the percentage of domestic content for a "Car Line" > not for the particular car you are looking at ======== Ed, you're absolutely right that content information on the Origins Sticker refers to the entire car *line*, not the individual car. I swung by the Toyota dealership early this morning, and noticed that the Origins Sticker is worded quite differently this year for the new '07 Camrys. The new wording leaves room for no ambiguity. Unlike last year's stickers, the new stickers now include the following phrase that clears up any confusion: "Parts Content information for vehicles in this *CARLINE*: U.S./Canada parts content: 75% The old stickers mentioned nothing about "Carline." So Hachi, regarding the J-Vin Camrys, you can be excused for thinking last year that [QUOTE]: "the bodies are assembled in the US minus the drive trains, and then put on one of the Marus and sent back to Japan for final assembly. The reason? Who knows? Perhaps Toyota has to manufacture a certain amount of autos in Japan to still be considered a Japanese auto maker (?). My only other guess is that they are sending parts to Japan and then assembling them there." [END QUOTE] Until the new Origins Stickers came out with the clear wording, we were all confused. But Hachi, buddy, you offered the wildest theories :-P
From: Mike Hunter on 15 Mar 2007 13:10 You are free to believe whatever you choose but as one might expect you are incorrect, not all Hondas assembled in the US have a '1.' Not all Toyotas have a '4' Does it not make you curious as to why Toyota would be assigned a '4' and '5,' as a world manufacturer as you want to believe, and Nissan who began assembly in the US long after Toyota would gets a '1?' Don't you find it strange, following your logic that ALL of the '1s' would be assigned before they 'ran out' of '1s' as you believe, before they would issue 4 and 5? I told you a dozen times were to search. I could not care less whether you do so, or not mike "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:qqeKh.6145$0W5.4397(a)trndny05... > >> >> For example the Accord get a '1' and the Camry a '4.' > > Exactly. Honda was assigned a WMI (world manufactuer identifier) beginning > with '1,' which indicates that it was made in the US, and Toyota begins > with a '4', which indicates it was made in the US. > > The first digit of the VIN indicates nothing else.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 15 Mar 2007 15:09 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:11:41 -0400, C. E. White wrote: > I think the labels hurt the sale of "domestic" vehicles since > some people apparently would refer their car to be assembled in Japan > by Japanese workers. I guess they like the idea of being an economic > colony of Japan. Doesn't bother me a whole lot. Hate to say it, but the Japanese made cars are made better...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 15 Mar 2007 15:12 On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:58:41 -0700, Built_Well wrote: > C. E. White wrote: >> The labels list the percentage of domestic content for a "Car Line" >> not for the particular car you are looking at > ======== > > Ed, you're absolutely right that content information on the Origins > Sticker refers to the entire car *line*, not the individual car. > I swung by the Toyota dealership early this morning, and noticed > that the Origins Sticker is worded quite differently this year > for the new '07 Camrys. > > The new wording leaves room for no ambiguity. Unlike last > year's stickers, the new stickers now include the following phrase > that clears up any confusion: > > "Parts Content information for vehicles in this *CARLINE*: > U.S./Canada parts content: 75% > > The old stickers mentioned nothing about "Carline." > > So Hachi, regarding the J-Vin Camrys, you can be excused for > thinking last year that > [QUOTE]: > "the bodies are assembled in the US minus the drive trains, and > then put on one of the Marus and sent back to Japan for > final assembly. The reason? Who knows? Perhaps Toyota has to > manufacture a certain amount of autos in Japan to still be > considered a Japanese auto maker (?). My only other guess > is that they are sending parts to Japan and then assembling them > there." > [END QUOTE] > > Until the new Origins Stickers came out with the clear > wording, we were all confused. But Hachi, buddy, you offered the > wildest theories :-P What the Hell?!?! You archiving my posts for future reference?!?!? ;) The stickers now say "For this car line" They didn't then, so I just made a wild guess. Hey, I was wrong before. And, you snipped the part where I said it was speculation!!! Once...
From: C. E. White on 15 Mar 2007 15:38
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:EOednWJKy5R0-WTYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > For example the Accord get a '1' and the Camry a '4.' ***BULLSHIT WARNING*** Mike Hunter is living in an alternate universe where the first digit of the VIN is tied to the domestic contnet. In "our" universe this is not true (or at least Mike cannot prove that it is true). Ask Mike why Lincoln Navigators have a "5" for the first digit while Ford Expeditions have a "1" for the first digit even though they are built in the same plant with parts mostly sourced from the same locations. Ask Mike why Mercury Mariners get a "4" for the first digit while the almost identical Ford Escapes get a "4". Ask ask Mike why Mustang V-6 Automatics still get a "1" for the first digit even though they don't include enough domestic parts to be considered domestic vehicles. And most improtantly, ask Mike where's the proof of his claim that the first digit of teh VIN has anything to do with domestic content. Ed |