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From: JoeSpareBedroom on 9 Apr 2010 16:51
"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
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> Get into a 200 car pile up while tailgating in a snowstorm as long as
> every body else is driving 0.25 seconds off the bumper of the car in
> front. That's ok too. Everybody else rammed the car in front. Can't
> be expected to follow at a sane distance.


Don't get me started on the tailgating subject. Property taxes could be
replaced by fines overnight if the cops used their rolling cash registers to
ticket tailgaters.


From: AZ Nomad on 9 Apr 2010 17:04
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:51:32 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote:
>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
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>> Get into a 200 car pile up while tailgating in a snowstorm as long as
>> every body else is driving 0.25 seconds off the bumper of the car in
>> front. That's ok too. Everybody else rammed the car in front. Can't
>> be expected to follow at a sane distance.


>Don't get me started on the tailgating subject. Property taxes could be
>replaced by fines overnight if the cops used their rolling cash registers to
>ticket tailgaters.

I'm of the opinion that every *single* who so much as touches the
bumper of the leading car in one of those pileups should get an 8
point reckless driving ticket. Get two and lose the driving
privileges for 7 years.

However, that would require the return of the concept of personal
responsibility.
From: TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu on 10 Apr 2010 21:01
On Apr 10, 8:29 pm, thea <thea.n...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:26 PM, TibetanMonkey,

> > The Bible implies, "Hey, it's a jungle out there, so you are on your
> > own, baby!"
>
> I worked in that jungle 40 years. It was interesting and in a heartbeat you
> could lose everything you ever worked for.
> There are a whole lot of people still working in that jungle as you state.
> And, they are making a good living -- howbeit, it still stands -
> That Work for your grub and no one can take your food off your plate unless
> you personally give it to them.

There's people who thrive in that jungle, and there's people who die
in that jungle, and there's people who simply survive in that jungle.
Some fall due to bad luck (hey, globalization is tough), some due to
illness, and there's no nothing you can do but it but to expect the
"miracle" of medical care. Perhaps they die and get it over with,
while the vast majority barely survives fearing illness or lay off.

That's life in the jungle, but in the end we all die, even the
vultures that most benefit from it.

From: TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu on 11 Apr 2010 01:11
On Apr 11, 12:18 am, Conscience <nobama@göv.com> wrote:
> On 2010-04-10 18:09:43 -0700, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
> Kung-Fu" <comandante.ban...(a)yahoo.com> said:
>
> >>> In other words, we are going slowly but surely back to feudalism. A
> >>> knight could come out of the blue and take away your life and your
> >>> horse.
>
> >> Close enough.
>
> > So you either live within the walls or outside the walls. ;)
>
> +1

Living inside or outside has both advantages and disadvantages. I'd
feel like a prisoner inside the walls, seeing always the same people.
But we sure have to tame the outside.

I'm all for breaking the walls like the Berlin Wall.
From: Matthew Russotto on 13 Apr 2010 22:03
In article <slrnhrv5j3.kob.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
AZ Nomad <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
>
>I'm of the opinion that every *single* who so much as touches the
>bumper of the leading car in one of those pileups should get an 8
>point reckless driving ticket. Get two and lose the driving
>privileges for 7 years.
>
>However, that would require the return of the concept of personal
>responsibility.

Personal responsibility does not mean "blaming everyone involved". In
particular, you've failed to take into account

1) People who were cut off just before the car in front of them braked
and
2) People who would have been able to stop in time if they hadn't been
literally pushed into the car in front.
--
The problem with socialism is there's always
someone with less ability and more need.
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