From: Ray O on

"Doctor Chen" <phdchen(a)google.com> wrote in message
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>
> This is weird. My family took a trip overseas for one month and when
> we returned the car is shot.
>
> First it's the usual low battery, ok no problem, I jump started it.
>
> But big problems when I tried to drive it. First the check engine
> light when on right away after the ignition is on. Then as I drive
> around my community the VSC and "car slippery" lights are on and I
> notice the suspensions are having some weird grumbling sounds.
>
> Any help are greatly appreciated. The car was totally fine when we
> left it.
>
> 2007 Toyota Camry SE V6, 40,000 miles.
>
> VSC and "car slippery" light on.
> Hear grumbling hard-spinning sounds from all 4 suspensions (wheels)
>
> Thanks!
>

I'm not really sure what you mean by "car slippery" lights, but it could be
an indication that the VSC system is sensing that the car is in a skid and
the VSC computer is trying to correct the skid but can't so it illuminated
the VSC warning light. The grumbling sounds are probably a result of debris
or rust buildup on the rotors from having been parked in a humid environment
for a while, or it could be the VSC applying the brakes in an attempt to
control the skid that it is incorrectly sensing.. If this is the case, a
few applications of the brakes should make the sounds go away. Check to
make sure there is no debris caught behind the wheels and make sure the
tires are properly inflated.

I would go to a place like Autozone and borrow an OBD II code scanner an
pull trouble codes. It is possible that there is a problem with one of the
wheel speed sensors, but you usually also get and ABS trouble light as well.

Let us know what codes, if any come up and if a few applications of the
brakes solve the problem.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: Doctor Chen on
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:14:15 -0600, "Ray O"
<rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:

>
>"Doctor Chen" <phdchen(a)google.com> wrote in message
>news:cru7o353oqtliopn8r0pdlepiniqs9nnkj(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> This is weird. My family took a trip overseas for one month and when
>> we returned the car is shot.
>>
>> First it's the usual low battery, ok no problem, I jump started it.
>>
>> But big problems when I tried to drive it. First the check engine
>> light when on right away after the ignition is on. Then as I drive
>> around my community the VSC and "car slippery" lights are on and I
>> notice the suspensions are having some weird grumbling sounds.
>>
>> Any help are greatly appreciated. The car was totally fine when we
>> left it.
>>
>> 2007 Toyota Camry SE V6, 40,000 miles.
>>
>> VSC and "car slippery" light on.
>> Hear grumbling hard-spinning sounds from all 4 suspensions (wheels)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>I'm not really sure what you mean by "car slippery" lights, but it could be
>an indication that the VSC system is sensing that the car is in a skid and
>the VSC computer is trying to correct the skid but can't so it illuminated
>the VSC warning light. The grumbling sounds are probably a result of debris
>or rust buildup on the rotors from having been parked in a humid environment
>for a while, or it could be the VSC applying the brakes in an attempt to
>control the skid that it is incorrectly sensing.. If this is the case, a
>few applications of the brakes should make the sounds go away. Check to
>make sure there is no debris caught behind the wheels and make sure the
>tires are properly inflated.
>
>I would go to a place like Autozone and borrow an OBD II code scanner an
>pull trouble codes. It is possible that there is a problem with one of the
>wheel speed sensors, but you usually also get and ABS trouble light as well.
>
>Let us know what codes, if any come up and if a few applications of the
>brakes solve the problem.

Ok, after driven around (street and highway) I notice the brake sound
is minimal (the rust is gone, so that's good), but the grumbling
caused by the VSC is still there when I brake. I think somone is
right when they say the car incorrectly senses the car going slippery
and tries to fix it.

Also, one more clue, I notice I'm not getting any oil pressure on the
oil meter even though I'm driving for a good 10 min. on the road
including highway.




From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Doctor Chen" <phdchen(a)google.com> wrote in message
news:eig9o3pdpmjn67bl7mvceucv6rabp8kfvo(a)4ax.com...
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:14:15 -0600, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Doctor Chen" <phdchen(a)google.com> wrote in message
>>news:cru7o353oqtliopn8r0pdlepiniqs9nnkj(a)4ax.com...
>>>
>>> This is weird. My family took a trip overseas for one month and when
>>> we returned the car is shot.
>>>
>>> First it's the usual low battery, ok no problem, I jump started it.
>>>
>>> But big problems when I tried to drive it. First the check engine
>>> light when on right away after the ignition is on. Then as I drive
>>> around my community the VSC and "car slippery" lights are on and I
>>> notice the suspensions are having some weird grumbling sounds.
>>>
>>> Any help are greatly appreciated. The car was totally fine when we
>>> left it.
>>>
>>> 2007 Toyota Camry SE V6, 40,000 miles.
>>>
>>> VSC and "car slippery" light on.
>>> Hear grumbling hard-spinning sounds from all 4 suspensions (wheels)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>>I'm not really sure what you mean by "car slippery" lights, but it could
>>be
>>an indication that the VSC system is sensing that the car is in a skid and
>>the VSC computer is trying to correct the skid but can't so it illuminated
>>the VSC warning light. The grumbling sounds are probably a result of
>>debris
>>or rust buildup on the rotors from having been parked in a humid
>>environment
>>for a while, or it could be the VSC applying the brakes in an attempt to
>>control the skid that it is incorrectly sensing.. If this is the case, a
>>few applications of the brakes should make the sounds go away. Check to
>>make sure there is no debris caught behind the wheels and make sure the
>>tires are properly inflated.
>>
>>I would go to a place like Autozone and borrow an OBD II code scanner an
>>pull trouble codes. It is possible that there is a problem with one of
>>the
>>wheel speed sensors, but you usually also get and ABS trouble light as
>>well.
>>
>>Let us know what codes, if any come up and if a few applications of the
>>brakes solve the problem.
>
> Ok, after driven around (street and highway) I notice the brake sound
> is minimal (the rust is gone, so that's good), but the grumbling
> caused by the VSC is still there when I brake. I think somone is
> right when they say the car incorrectly senses the car going slippery
> and tries to fix it.
>
> Also, one more clue, I notice I'm not getting any oil pressure on the
> oil meter even though I'm driving for a good 10 min. on the road
> including highway.


If there really was no oil pressure, you'd would've killed your car by now.
You really do need to stop driving this vehicle and get it to the dealer
ASAP. If you already had an excellent independent mechanic, that would be an
option, but in my opinion, this is not the time to go shopping for one.

There's no point in your asking any further questions, or trying to diagnose
the problem yourself. You don't have to skill to fix anything.


From: Jeff on
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

<...>

> If there really was no oil pressure, you'd would've killed your car by now.

Or there could be damage that will cause the car to die in a few months.

> You really do need to stop driving this vehicle and get it to the dealer
> ASAP. If you already had an excellent independent mechanic, that would be an
> option, but in my opinion, this is not the time to go shopping for one.

I concur.

> There's no point in your asking any further questions, or trying to diagnose
> the problem yourself. You don't have to skill to fix anything.

Well, if he needs a new engine, this will be quite a learning experience
for him.

Jeff
From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> <...>
>
>> If there really was no oil pressure, you'd would've killed your car by
>> now.
>
> Or there could be damage that will cause the car to die in a few months.


If you literally had NO oil pressure, my understanding is that you have
minutes, if you're lucky. I had an oil pump die on my 92 Taurus, while going
65 mph. I got a warning light and a very odd sound, and killed the ignition
instantly. Mechanic's comment: "You were really lucky your hand moved so
fast."

It's interesting handling a car onto the shoulder with no power to the
brakes or steering at those speeds, while also (by the way) towing a boat.
:-)


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