From: sharx35 on

"GO Mavs" <GoMavs(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message
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>i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>automatic click..

That's what caused Engine Check light to come on in my 99 Camry--trying to
get every last drop in caused P type error codes to activate the Engine
Check Light. Once I stopped putting fuel in after the automatic gas pump cut
off, I stopped getting those bogus engine check lights.




>
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:RQVei.59$111.58(a)trnddc05...
>> mack wrote:
>>> "Chuck Olson" <chuckolson01(a)REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:8eWdnQysP_e1ZebbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>>>> I write down what my Prius says my average MPG was when I fill up. Then
>>>> I
>>>> calculate from the miles and gallons pumped what my average MPG was and
>>>> write that down. They rarely agree, and almost always the pump says my
>>>> MPG
>>>> was less than my Prius said. But once in a while, the pump MPG is
>>>> higher
>>>> than the Prius MPG, and when I go back to that pump, it always shows
>>>> higher
>>>> MPG. This lasts until the pump checker comes around and fixes it. Then
>>>> off I
>>>> go on a new search for a high MPG pump. The latest pump gave me 54 MPG
>>>> when
>>>> the Prius said 50.6.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you just have to go to the pump that's in the sun rather than one
>>>> that's nice and shady, or the pump that is off to the side compared to
>>>> the
>>>> natural flow of traffic through the pump aisles. But you can find that
>>>> golden pump - - you just have to believe in the MPG reading your car
>>>> calculates, and use that as the standard of comparison.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for the "golden" pump, you probably won't find it in
>>> the sun. The sun's heat makes gasoline volume expand, so you actually
>>> get a little less than you would pay for if you bought your gasoline
>>> during the hours of darkness, when it's usually cooler. It's not a big
>>> thing, but it could make a small difference in your calculated mileage
>>> figures.
>>
>> It's the temperature of the gas when it goes through the mechanism that
>> measure the volume, not the nozzle. Gasoline when it comes out of the
>> ground is a more or less temp because the ground is a much more constant
>> temp than the air. So changing the time of day that you get gas doesn't
>> matter. The only thing you don't want to do is get the gas right after
>> the tanks are filled, so that the dirt in the tank is not stirred up.
>>
>> The angle at which your car sits, the speed of fuel going into the tank,
>> when the the nozzle kicks off and how the tank it topped off are going to
>> make more of a difference about how much gas gets into your car's tank at
>> a particular fill-up. Over the long haul, though, it will even out.
>>
>> The other thing I do know is that it is possible to adjust the volume of
>> fuel going into the tank according to the temperature at the volume
>> measuring device in the pump. Except in Alaska and Canada and other
>> Northern parts of North America, it is rarely done on continent. In fact,
>> in some states OPW, which is a company that makes the device won't even
>> sell it. I guess the oil companies don't want people to get that finally
>> 1% of gas that they pay for.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>


From: sharx35 on

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <8eWdnQysP_e1ZebbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
> "Chuck Olson" <chuckolson01(a)REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I write down what my Prius says my average MPG was when I fill up. Then I
>> calculate from the miles and gallons pumped what my average MPG was and
>> write that down. They rarely agree, and almost always the pump says my
>> MPG
>> was less than my Prius said. But once in a while, the pump MPG is higher
>> than the Prius MPG, and when I go back to that pump, it always shows
>> higher
>> MPG. This lasts until the pump checker comes around and fixes it. Then
>> off I
>> go on a new search for a high MPG pump. The latest pump gave me 54 MPG
>> when
>> the Prius said 50.6.
>>
>> Maybe you just have to go to the pump that's in the sun rather than one
>> that's nice and shady, or the pump that is off to the side compared to
>> the
>> natural flow of traffic through the pump aisles. But you can find that
>> golden pump - - you just have to believe in the MPG reading your car
>> calculates, and use that as the standard of comparison.
>
> You cannot use the Prius gas tank capacity from fillup to fillup as any
> indicator of how much fuel you actually used.
>
> This is a fact. It's because of the bladder inside the tank, primarily.
> It stretches or not to differing degrees, depending on a whole host of
> factors. The result is a bladder that takes more or less fuel each
> time, and virtually never the same amount--even filling from the same
> pump.
>

Bladder? what the Hell is the point of a bladder inside a car gas tank?
Sounds like some bogus environmental feature mandated by the Communist
Republics of California or Massatwoshits.



From: sharx35 on

" dbu,." <nsp(a)einp.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ptXei.131$111.123(a)trnddc05>, Jeff <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> EdV wrote:
>> > If you want to do all the fuss then you can buy a 10 gallon fuel
>> > container. At the gas pump fill it up to 10 gallons and check if it
>> > match the proper level. After that you pour the gas to your tank.
>>
>> The states do that already to make sure that the pumps are accurate and
>> consumers not ripped off.
>>
>> The states are supposed to use values that aren't even, say 3.56 gal, to
>> keep the vendors honest.
>>
>> I know it is hard to believe, but there are some vendors who will try to
>> rip people off.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Hopefully some day they will re-institute fuel rationing. Then you will
> have no argument. You will be happy to have received your 2 allocated
> gallons of fuel. You will not question it, because there will be 20
> people behind you waiting and it will be back to the end of the line
> for you after you get finished complaining.

I'd have no problem with fuel rationing: it is NOT necessary to make
multiple trips to the supermarket: one a week is ample. Good planning would
save millions of gallons/litres a day.


>
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>
> "I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers.
> We are the President." Hillary Clinton


From: GO Mavs on
good to know.. guess i wont be topping off anymore...


"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "GO Mavs" <GoMavs(a)MavvZ.com> wrote in message
> news:ogYei.1227$yN.942(a)trnddc07...
>>i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>>automatic click..
>
> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is a
> chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister from
> constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to the
> nearest nickel or dime.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>


From: Wickeddoll´┐Ż on

"GO Mavs" ...
> good to know.. guess i wont be topping off anymore...
>
>
> "Ray O" ...
>>
>> "GO Mavs" ...
>>>i usually top off.. add another dollar of gas to the car after the
>>>automatic click..
>>
>> That is a bad habit to get in to. Besides the risk of spills, there is
>> a chance, albeit small, that you can contaminate the charcoal canister
>> from constant overfilling. When the pump clicks off, I just round up to
>> the nearest nickel or dime.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O

I never topped off, anyway. Seemed kind of obsessive-compulsive to me.

Natalie