From: Jeff on 17 Mar 2007 15:41 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:NbydnavTWMpNqGHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > What I was referring to was what one get for the price. Do some > comparison shopping and you will discover a base V6 Tundra costs one MORE > to drive home than a base V8 from either GM, Ford or Dodge and they are > better trucks > > mike > > . > "Pete Moss" <spraghnum(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:spraghnum-3D461C.23490016032007(a)news.iglou.com... >> In article <F42dnXMNiPllrGbYnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d(a)ptd.net>, > >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote: >> >>> Duh! The Tundra in the commercial pulling the 10,000 LB was not a base >>> model with a six speed tranny >>> >>> mike >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > The base engine in the Silverado is a V6 as well. >> >> I'm sure none of the Chevys in commercials have the V6 either. Your >> saying that the Tundra has a base V6 was a meaningless point. You forgot to say, "I my opinion."
From: Ed White on 19 Mar 2007 14:23 On Mar 16, 7:16 pm, "mack" <macke...(a)dslextreme.com> wrote: > "Ed White" <ce.whi...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1174068142.493211.246440(a)n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...> Why do you think that? Any proof, or just wild speculation. > > > Ed > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > There is no proof of course, because like anyone else, I cannot foretell the > future, but based on three Toyotas and several GM and Ford products (Thank > God I haven't owned a Chrysler product since 1958!) I'm just hazarding the > guess that The Toys will be around long after the others go bye-bye. > Speculation, but anything but wild. GM in particular makes cars that make > themselves obsolete in a few years. If you really want to see a car > self-destruct, get a Cadillac Catera, (the car that zigs....right into the > wrecking yard.) I know of at least one Catera that is not in the junk yard - my next door neighboor has one. And compared to some of the tired looking Toyotas in the lot, it looks great. And at least it doesn't cloud over the parking lot with a blue cloud like one of my other neighbor's Camry does. Making generalitions about any particular brand of car based on limited experience can be dangerous. I am sure there are plenty of good looking and running Cateras on the highways. And I am sure there are plenty in the junk yard as well (and I am sure there are plenty of Camrys in the junk yards as well). Cateras were never particualrly popular and I suspect a lot of the second hand ones didn't end up in the hands of people that really care about cars. Ed
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 19 Mar 2007 14:36 "Ed White" <ce.white3(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1174328637.340570.64100(a)y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 16, 7:16 pm, "mack" <macke...(a)dslextreme.com> wrote: >> "Ed White" <ce.whi...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1174068142.493211.246440(a)n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...> Why do you >> think that? Any proof, or just wild speculation. >> >> > Ed >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> There is no proof of course, because like anyone else, I cannot foretell >> the >> future, but based on three Toyotas and several GM and Ford products >> (Thank >> God I haven't owned a Chrysler product since 1958!) I'm just hazarding >> the >> guess that The Toys will be around long after the others go bye-bye. >> Speculation, but anything but wild. GM in particular makes cars that >> make >> themselves obsolete in a few years. If you really want to see a car >> self-destruct, get a Cadillac Catera, (the car that zigs....right into >> the >> wrecking yard.) > > I know of at least one Catera that is not in the junk yard - my next > door neighboor has one. And compared to some of the tired looking > Toyotas in the lot, it looks great. And at least it doesn't cloud over > the parking lot with a blue cloud like one of my other neighbor's > Camry does. I've owned a total of 4 Toyotas. In all 4 instances, the cars *never* needed oil added between changes. I can assure you that your neighbor's blue cloud problem is due to shoddy maintenance, not bad workmanship.
From: Ed White on 19 Mar 2007 14:45 On Mar 16, 8:06 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehu...(a)mailcity.com> wrote: > No so, all F150s with the trailer tow package have the 4.5 V8 standard. > > mike But not all F150s have the Trailer Tow Package. And no F150 come with a 4.5 V8. You said "The F150 has a six speed and a V8 is standard as well." This is an incorrect statement since neither a V-8 or a six speed transmission is standard (and the six speed transmission isn't even an option). And your revised statement is also incorrect. Go to www.fordvehicles.com and build an F150. Selecting the Trailer Tow Package does not reuire the V-8 or an automatic transmission. And finally, Ford doesn't offer a 6 speed transmission in the 2007 F150 (they do in the 2007 Expedition). The following information was clipped directly from the 2007 Ford F150 Ordering Guide: ------ TRAILER TOW PACKAGE (535) Usage: Required for towing over 5,000 lbs. Availability: · All F-150 units Includes: · Class IV trailer hitch receiver · 7-pin wiring harness · Upgraded radiator & upgraded auxiliary transmission oil cooler [req. 4.6L V8 (99W), 5.4L 3V V8 (995) or 5.4L 3V V8 FFV(99V) engine; auxiliary transmission oil cooler only w/4.2L V6 A/T (992/44Q)] Optional Equipment: · Heavy duty 72-amp battery (59H) [incl. when ordered w/both Satellite Radio (91S) & Rear Seat Entertainment System (915)] ------ Notice that the Trailer Tow Package is availale with all F150 Units. Also notice that it includes an "auxiliary transmission oil cooler only w/4.2L V6 A/T" Please admit that the trailer tow package is available with the 4.2L V-6. As for the Powertrain Options: ----- POWERTRAIN 4.2L EFI V6/5-Spd. Manual O/D 4.2L EFI v6/4-Spd. Auto O/D 4.6L EFI V8/Electronic 4-Spd. Auto O/D 5.4L 3V EFI V8/Electronic 4-Spd. Auto O/D 5.4L 3V EFI V8 FFV/Electronic 4-Spd. Auto O/D ----- Ed > "Ed White" <ce.whi...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1174082548.226233.187370(a)l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Mar 16, 4:54 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehu...(a)mailcity.com> wrote: > >> Get real. Ford is the Silverado competition not the Tundra. Ford sells > >> 35% > >> of the full-size trucks in the US. Chevy 30% and Toyota a measly 5%. > >> The > >> base engine in the Tundra is a only a V6. The F150 has a six speed and a > >> V8 > >> is standard as well. The Tundra is just beginning to catch up to the > >> build > >> quality of what GM, Ford and Dodge have been offering in their truck for > >> years > > >> mike > > > Mike, > > > Actually Ford and Chevrolet also have standard V-6s in their half ton > > pickup trucks. When I was shopping for a pickup last year it was much > > easier to find a V-6 F150 than a V-6 Tundra. There was not a single > > V-6 Tundra on any of the local lots for me to test drive. V-6 F150 > > were easy to fiind. > > > Ed- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Ed White on 19 Mar 2007 15:00
On Mar 17, 12:49 am, Pete Moss <spragh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Duh, yourself. You're the one who made the spurious comment about the > Tundra having a V6 as the base engine. Everybody's full-size truck has a > V6 as the base engine on paper so they can say they offer it as a fuel > efficient option. How many of them actually show up on car lots? Crossroads Ford in Cary NC claims to have 14 2007 F150s with V-6s in their inventory Capital Ford in Raleigh NC claims to have 24 2007 F150s with V-6s in their inventory Ed |