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From: Jonathan on 12 Apr 2007 01:08 "Kevin" <ksmabon(a)mts.net> wrote in message news:A%wPh.13951$Ng1.267(a)newsfe19.lga... > You want an electronic 6.5 TD???? Better get a box of FSDs and a couple > injection pumps in the deal. Best 6.5 is mechanical TD, about 94. > > Not so. An FSD cooler eliminates the FSD failure issue and the post-'97 high flow water pump with dual thermostats and crossover takes care of the head gasket burn-through issues on the rear cylinders. The problem at this point is not a mechanical or reliability issue anymore, it's the fact that the 6.5 has indirect injection, isn't intercooled, and has only two valves per cylinder. In the end it was cheaper and easier to design an entirely new motor (the Duramax) that it was to redesign the 6.5. Cheers - Jonathan
From: Ed White on 12 Apr 2007 08:38 On Apr 12, 1:02 am, "Jonathan" <Fire_Capt...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "jcr" <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:X_2dnSTmCI5qXZDbnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > > > And the V-6 engine in the Saturn Vue is made by Honda. > > From what I've read, Honda did a corporate trade with GM - the V6 in the > Saturns in exchange for Duramax diesels for the overseas market. > > Cheers - Jonathan It wasn't the Duramax that Honda gets, it is a Opel four cylinder diesel for use in European Hondas. Diesels are over 50% of the car market in Europe. Ed
From: Ray O on 12 Apr 2007 16:04 "Ed White" <ce.white3(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1176381505.025523.234720(a)y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 12, 1:02 am, "Jonathan" <Fire_Capt...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "jcr" <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:X_2dnSTmCI5qXZDbnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >> >> > And the V-6 engine in the Saturn Vue is made by Honda. >> >> From what I've read, Honda did a corporate trade with GM - the V6 in the >> Saturns in exchange for Duramax diesels for the overseas market. >> >> Cheers - Jonathan > > It wasn't the Duramax that Honda gets, it is a Opel four cylinder > diesel for use in European Hondas. Diesels are over 50% of the car > market in Europe. > > Ed > I was wondering how Honda would fit a Duramax into one of their cars! -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: PerfectReign on 15 Apr 2007 23:04 On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:04:16 -0500, a rock fell from the sky, hitting Ray O on the head, and inspiring the following: > "Ed White" <ce.white3(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1176381505.025523.234720(a)y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> On Apr 12, 1:02 am, "Jonathan" <Fire_Capt...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "jcr" <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:X_2dnSTmCI5qXZDbnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >>> >>> > And the V-6 engine in the Saturn Vue is made by Honda. >>> >>> From what I've read, Honda did a corporate trade with GM - the V6 in >>> the Saturns in exchange for Duramax diesels for the overseas market. >>> >>> Cheers - Jonathan >> >> It wasn't the Duramax that Honda gets, it is a Opel four cylinder >> diesel for use in European Hondas. Diesels are over 50% of the car >> market in Europe. >> >> Ed >> >> > I was wondering how Honda would fit a Duramax into one of their cars! I know a Ridgeline will fit into an Avalanche.... http://donutmonster.com/stuff/z71_avy_ridgeline.jpg -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone
From: PerfectReign on 15 Apr 2007 23:05
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:08:51 +0000, a rock fell from the sky, hitting Jonathan on the head, and inspiring the following: > "Kevin" <ksmabon(a)mts.net> wrote in message > news:A%wPh.13951$Ng1.267(a)newsfe19.lga... >> You want an electronic 6.5 TD???? Better get a box of FSDs and a couple >> injection pumps in the deal. Best 6.5 is mechanical TD, about 94. >> >> > Not so. An FSD cooler eliminates the FSD failure issue and the post-'97 > high flow water pump with dual thermostats and crossover takes care of > the head gasket burn-through issues on the rear cylinders. The problem > at this point is not a mechanical or reliability issue anymore, it's the > fact that the 6.5 has indirect injection, isn't intercooled, and has > only two valves per cylinder. In the end it was cheaper and easier to > design an entirely new motor (the Duramax) that it was to redesign the > 6.5. > ....now if only they put the DMAX into the Suburban. I'd like a midsize diesel SUV like that. -- k |