GM Dealer Challenges the Toyota Tundra's Ads... AS BULL
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From: jcr on 31 Mar 2007 19:13 SnoMan wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:56:50 -0400, jcr <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > >> What are the HP & torque ratings on the Tundra? > > > I seem to recall 381 HP and around 401 ft lbs of torque. It has a 32 > valve V8 with varible valve timing and it has a flat power band and > it pulls strongly from about 2000 RPM to redline of 6 grand. It is one > sweet motor. Quite honestly it would not need to be bigger to haul a > 3/4 truck around because it easily out powers any gas truck engine > made today. The only gas SUV engine made today that would be a serious > match for it would be maybe a Ford V10. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com Based on this, it appears that Toyota has upped the ante considerably with the "bread-and-butter" segment of product that the US manufacturers count on so much. When will the US catch up?! <sigh>
From: SnoMan on 31 Mar 2007 19:43 On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:13:30 -0400, jcr <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: >Based on this, it appears that Toyota has upped the ante considerably >with the "bread-and-butter" segment of product that the US manufacturers >count on so much. When will the US catch up?! <sigh> It gets better. Rumor has it that when Toyota rolls out 3/4 and one ton models they will offer the option of a CAT diesel. Not because they cannot build a good motor themselves but because to penetrate that niche market they can improve their odds with a US designed and made diesel engine with a excellant reputation too. I cannot reveal my source for this but I do beleive it to be fairly creditable and it also makes a lot of sense too. Give how US trucks are made for a lot of parts made in mexico, a Toyota truck built in US with a CAT could be a nightmare for detriots diesel P/U sales.
From: Kevin on 31 Mar 2007 19:45 There's a pile of problems with the pumps and drivers on those engines. 3 pump revisions later, we're still changing a pile of parts. LLY and LBZ engines are solid if you keep clean fuel filters on them. If you don't, you're buying injectors, and they're kinds pricey! "PerfectReign" <perfectreign(a)xr4ti.cotse.net> wrote in message news:pan.2007.03.31.18.11.07(a)xr4ti.cotse.net... > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:31:32 -0500, a rock fell the sky, hitting Kevin on > the head, and inspiring the following: > >> You want an electronic 6.5 TD???? Better get a box of FSDs and a couple >> injection pumps in the deal. Best 6.5 is mechanical TD, about 94. >> > > Really? > > I've been reading that there were issues with the '96 model injectors and > some cooling issues with the block but that by '98/'99 they'd all been > worked out. > > Right now, I'm just browsing and would love an LLY or an LBZ but I know > they didn't do such things and have no intention of a major swap. Besides > I like the < 2000 body style. > > -- > k
From: PerfectReign on 31 Mar 2007 20:11 On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:43:26 +0000, a rock fell the sky, hitting SnoMan on the head, and inspiring the following: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:13:30 -0400, jcr <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > >>Based on this, it appears that Toyota has upped the ante considerably >>with the "bread-and-butter" segment of product that the US manufacturers >>count on so much. When will the US catch up?! <sigh> > > It gets better. Rumor has it that when Toyota rolls out 3/4 and one ton > models they will offer the option of a CAT diesel. That's what I've been reading, too. > Not because they > cannot build a good motor themselves but because to penetrate that niche > market they can improve their odds with a US designed and made diesel > engine with a excellant reputation too. Who *does* build their own? Ford uses Navistar IIRC, Dodge uses Cummins and GM uses Duramax, which was a joint venture with Joe Izusu. > I cannot reveal my source for > this I read it in Diesel Power and I think in Truck Trend. >but I do beleive it to be fairly creditable and it also makes a lot > of sense too. Give how US trucks are made for a lot of parts made in > mexico, a Toyota truck built in US with a CAT could be a nightmare for > detriots diesel P/U sales. -- k
From: PerfectReign on 31 Mar 2007 20:13
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:45:54 -0500, a rock fell the sky, hitting Kevin on the head, and inspiring the following: > There's a pile of problems with the pumps and drivers on those engines. > 3 pump revisions later, we're still changing a pile of parts. You referring to the 6.5? I thought they were fairly rock solid. > > LLY and LBZ engines are solid if you keep clean fuel filters on them. If > you don't, you're buying injectors, and they're kinds pricey! Yeah, been there / done that! (I had a '95 Jimmy with the SFI 4.3 Vortec.) -- k |