From: JoeSpareBedroom on 27 Mar 2007 10:22 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message news:460927a5$1(a)kcnews01... > > "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message > news:un7i03tvfd4ki39breqcddspvfakidfpjj(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:33:52 GMT, "Whitelightning" >> <white.lightning2(a)verizon.net> wrote: >> >>>Thats funny the poor maintanece claim was by Toyota who was turning down >>>warranty claims even when the owners had reciepts showing every scheduled >>>service was performed by a Toyota dealership. >> >> That is simply not true. >> >> No one that had their oil changed at the correct intervals at a dealer >> developed sludge.... > > And you can prove this? And what was the correct service intervals? 7500 > miles, 5000 mile, 3000 miles? > > No matter how you spin this, certain Toyota engines sold in certain years > were more likely to development significant internal sludge than engines > from most other manufacturers. I am not going to claim that all the > complaints are valid, but it seems to me there are enough people > complaining about certain Toyota engines compared to other engines (even > Toyota engines from other years) that there was a design flaw. Claiming > otherwise seems to fly in the face of reality. > > Ed You're probably right. But, keep in mind that in your last message (the one I'm replying to now), you were debating with Scott, who is proof of a condition gerontologists formally recognized many years ago: Minds which atrophy from lack of use, often as quickly as muscles.
From: Whitelightning on 27 Mar 2007 11:08 "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message news:un7i03tvfd4ki39breqcddspvfakidfpjj(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:33:52 GMT, "Whitelightning" > <white.lightning2(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >>Thats funny the poor maintanece claim was by Toyota who was turning down >>warranty claims even when the owners had reciepts showing every scheduled >>service was performed by a Toyota dealership. > > That is simply not true. > > No one that had their oil changed at the correct intervals at a dealer > developed sludge.... > > -- > > Scott in Florida I suggest Scott you do some research , try back issues of the St. Petersburg Times and the Tampa Tribune as well as the Orlando papers. The States Atternoy General got involved in the rucus in Florida and there was talk of a class action suit 3, 4 years ago. Whitelightning
From: Scott in Florida on 27 Mar 2007 11:11 On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:15:53 -0400, "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote: >> No one that had their oil changed at the correct intervals at a >> dealer >> developed sludge.... > >And you can prove this? And what was the correct service intervals? >7500 miles, 5000 mile, 3000 miles? No one has ever posted their service records to prove they developed sludge if they serviced their car at a dealer. Only reason I challenged anyone to post them is that most people would trust that evidence. There were a lot of people that 'said' they changed their oil at 7500 or less...but no one posted their receipts. -- Scott in Florida
From: Scott in Florida on 27 Mar 2007 11:21 On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:08:25 GMT, "Whitelightning" <white.lightning2(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message >news:un7i03tvfd4ki39breqcddspvfakidfpjj(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:33:52 GMT, "Whitelightning" >> <white.lightning2(a)verizon.net> wrote: >> >>>Thats funny the poor maintanece claim was by Toyota who was turning down >>>warranty claims even when the owners had reciepts showing every scheduled >>>service was performed by a Toyota dealership. >> >> That is simply not true. >> >> No one that had their oil changed at the correct intervals at a dealer >> developed sludge.... >> >> -- >> >> Scott in Florida > >I suggest Scott you do some research , try back issues of the St. Petersburg >Times and the Tampa Tribune as well as the Orlando papers. The States >Atternoy General got involved in the rucus in Florida and there was talk of >a class action suit 3, 4 years ago. > >Whitelightning > I repeat. No one has developed sludge in a Toyota engine if they changed their oil as recommended by Toyota. No one has posted valid receipts to prove they changed oil and developed sludge. One thing Toyota did was install a maintenance reminder light to keep soccer moms from developing sludge due to not changing their oil. -- Scott in Florida
From: Ed White on 27 Mar 2007 13:16
On Mar 25, 9:19 am, Picasso <Pica...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The big question is, why would you want a v6 f150 Cheaper, better gas mileage, will do everything you need to do. In my mind, a better question is why does anyone need a 5.7L 4 Door Pick-up with a hard tonneau cover over the pick-up bed? Ed |