GM Dealer Challenges the Toyota Tundra's Ads... AS BULL
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From: JoeSpareBedroom on 21 Mar 2007 06:52 "Big Al" <sal1(a)qwest.net> wrote in message news:46009e27$0$496$815e3792(a)news.qwest.net... > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:ZjSLh.5135$B25.172(a)news01.roc.ny... >> >> >> > BTW: GMC is still showing the 8.1 as an option?? >> > >> > Al >> >> >> Go check their web site. >> >> > > Unlike you, I did: Yes. Unlike me. Be your own secretary.
From: DH on 21 Mar 2007 08:56 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message news:45ffd8c4(a)kcnews01... > If I wanted to tow a heavy load, I would go for an F250/F350. They also > have a six speed transmission. Ford/GM/Dodge all have 3/4 and 1 ton trucks > for people that actually need to tow 10,000 lbs. Toyota is not trying to > create that distinction i.e., they don't have a separate Tundra HD model > to compete with the F350/350 or Silverado HD. If you want to compare the > Tundra to other trucks capable of towing heavy loads, then I contend you > must compare it to the heavy duty pick-ups from Ford, GM, and Dodge. Right. And the Impala should be compared to the Lexus ES 460. It's a half-ton. Compare it to the half-tons. > And if you want to limit your discussion to big "gas" engines, then here > are the engine comparisons: > > Tundra - 5.7L V-8 - 381 hp @ 5600 rpm 401 lb.-ft. @ 3600 rpm > F250 - 6.8L V-10 - 362 hp @ 4750 rpm 457 lb. -ft @ 3250 rpm > Silverado HD2500 6.0L V-8 - 367 hp @ 5500 rpm 375 lb. - ft @ 4300 rpm > Dodge 2500 - 345 hp @ 5400 rpm 375 lb. - ft @ 4200 rpm > > For towing I would contend that torque is more important that > horsepower -especially horsepower at 5600 rpm. Which engine would you > rather have to tow a heavy load? The one with 401 lb.-ft of torque at 3600 > rpm, or the one with 457 lb.- ft of torque at 3250 rpm? F250s also have a > six speed automatic transmission and offer a variety of rear gear ratios? > So if you wanted to tow a heavy load, which truck would be the better > choice? I see that Toyota has more torque and more horsepower than the GM and Dodge 3/4 ton pickups, outclassed only by a Ford V-10. And probably that giant Navistar diesel engine, which is a $6K option. I wonder which gasser gets better fuel economy? Hmm... Ford, GM and Dodge don't appear to have supplied fuel economy figures to Edmunds. Perhaps that answers my question. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Big Al on 21 Mar 2007 11:33 "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:M78Mh.5331$ya1.3196(a)news02.roc.ny... > "Big Al" <sal1(a)qwest.net> wrote in message > news:46009e27$0$496$815e3792(a)news.qwest.net... > > > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:ZjSLh.5135$B25.172(a)news01.roc.ny... > >> >> > >> > BTW: GMC is still showing the 8.1 as an option?? > >> > > >> > Al > >> > >> > >> Go check their web site. > >> > >> > > > > Unlike you, I did: > > > Yes. Unlike me. Be your own secretary. > > No wonder you have a spare bedroom:)
From: Mike Hunter on 21 Mar 2007 13:38 You are correct, people in the US know the best place to spend their hard earned money. That is why the F150 has been the best selling truck and the best selling vehicle, as well, for thirty years Ford sells more F series trucks alone than Toyota sell trucks and cars combined ;) mike "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message news:3ae003dbpfpg2oj4ok8toptl54hsuro881(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:10:30 -0400, "C. E. White" > <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote: > >> >>One more thing - The list price for a stripped F250 V-10 six speed >>automatic is less than the price for a stripped Tundra 5.7L V-8 six >>speed automatic even before the $3000 rebate on the F250 is figured >>in. >> >>Ed >> > > Ford knows what their trucks are worth.... > > It turns out Toyota is worth more if they sell for more. > > People tend to buy the best tool for the job. > > -- > > Scott in Florida > > >
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 21 Mar 2007 13:44
You might want to talk to your doctor about the frequency with which you repeat yourself. Seriously. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:WqqdnR8jSsJA8JzbnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > You are correct, people in the US know the best place to spend their hard > earned money. That is why the F150 has been the best selling truck and > the best selling vehicle, as well, for thirty years Ford sells more F > series trucks alone than Toyota sell trucks and cars combined ;) > > mike > > > "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message > news:3ae003dbpfpg2oj4ok8toptl54hsuro881(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:10:30 -0400, "C. E. White" >> <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>One more thing - The list price for a stripped F250 V-10 six speed >>>automatic is less than the price for a stripped Tundra 5.7L V-8 six >>>speed automatic even before the $3000 rebate on the F250 is figured >>>in. >>> >>>Ed >>> >> >> Ford knows what their trucks are worth.... >> >> It turns out Toyota is worth more if they sell for more. >> >> People tend to buy the best tool for the job. >> >> -- >> >> Scott in Florida >> >> >> > > |