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From: Derek Gee on 5 Jun 2010 16:56 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:huaotl$qua$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4c085ca4$0$4837$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:hu83co$f4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "dbu'" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:td6dnRe0vp5uGZjRnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> In article <hu3tdi$4tf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan probed for mat issue >>>>> >>>>> Automotive News -- June 1, 2010 - 12:12 pm ET >>>>> UPDATED: 6/1/10 1:20 p.m. ET >>>>> >>>>> DETROIT (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co.'s Fusion and Mercury Milan cars >>>>> are under investigation by U.S. regulators because floor mats may trap >>>>> the accelerator pedals, the National Highway Traffic Safety >>>>> Administration said. >>>>> >>>>> About 249,300 cars from the 2010 model year may be affected, NHTSA >>>>> said today on its Web site. The agency said it received three >>>>> complaints about accelerator pedals being trapped by unsecured >>>>> all-weather floor mats. No crashes or injuries have been reported. >>>>> >>>>> Toyota Motor Corp., the world's largest automaker, has recalled about >>>>> 5.4 million vehicles in the past year for floor mats that the company >>>>> said may entrap gas pedals and cause unintended acceleration. >>>>> >>>>> "It isn't just the company that's facing the investigation or recall," >>>>> John Wolkonowicz, an auto analyst with IHS Global Insight in >>>>> Lexington, Mass., said in an interview. "It's a black eye for the >>>>> entire industry." >>>>> >>>>> The Fusion is Ford's best-selling car, accounting for 38 percent of >>>>> sales for Ford-brand passenger cars this year through April and the >>>>> Milan represents more than a third of Mercury vehicle sales, according >>>>> to Ford's May 3 sales report. >>>>> >>>>> Optional all-weather floor mats should be installed after unfastening >>>>> and removing the standard, carpeted floor mat on the driver's side of >>>>> the car, NHTSA said in a May 28 statement. Owners should ensure the >>>>> mat is "never stacked," the agency said. >>>>> >>>>> "We do not recommend stacking floor mats in any vehicle by any >>>>> automaker," Ford spokesman Said Deep said in an interview. "We're not >>>>> aware of any customer complaints or accidents with properly installed >>>>> floor mats. We're going to cooperate fully with NHTSA." >>>>> >>>>> Read more: >>>>> http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100601/OEM/100609989/ >>>> >>>> Only comment is LOL!! >>> >>> I have a 2007 Fusion. The Ford mat that came with the car detours >>> around the area under accelerator pedal. I can't see how it could ever >>> interfre with the accelerator pedal. However, the article mentions >>> "unsecured all-weather floor mats," so I suppose that is the issue. I >>> guess Ford will soon be recalling Fusions to saw off the accelerator >>> pedals like Toyota did. >> >> Not if the problem is after-market floormats they won't. > > But isn't the problem with at least some Toyotas unsecured all weather > floor mats? I know the offical Toyota mats include pegs for keeping them > in place. Some vehicles were reported to have had that problem, but there were others that had NO mat at all. There were also reports of idiots putting a rubber mat on top of the standard Toyota mat. Doh! Derek
From: Sharx35 on 7 Jun 2010 00:23 "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote in message news:4c0c24da$0$4830$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:huaotl$qua$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4c085ca4$0$4837$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>> news:hu83co$f4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "dbu'" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:td6dnRe0vp5uGZjRnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>> In article <hu3tdi$4tf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan probed for mat issue >>>>>> >>>>>> Automotive News -- June 1, 2010 - 12:12 pm ET >>>>>> UPDATED: 6/1/10 1:20 p.m. ET >>>>>> >>>>>> DETROIT (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co.'s Fusion and Mercury Milan cars >>>>>> are under investigation by U.S. regulators because floor mats may >>>>>> trap >>>>>> the accelerator pedals, the National Highway Traffic Safety >>>>>> Administration said. >>>>>> >>>>>> About 249,300 cars from the 2010 model year may be affected, NHTSA >>>>>> said today on its Web site. The agency said it received three >>>>>> complaints about accelerator pedals being trapped by unsecured >>>>>> all-weather floor mats. No crashes or injuries have been reported. >>>>>> >>>>>> Toyota Motor Corp., the world's largest automaker, has recalled about >>>>>> 5.4 million vehicles in the past year for floor mats that the company >>>>>> said may entrap gas pedals and cause unintended acceleration. >>>>>> >>>>>> "It isn't just the company that's facing the investigation or >>>>>> recall," >>>>>> John Wolkonowicz, an auto analyst with IHS Global Insight in >>>>>> Lexington, Mass., said in an interview. "It's a black eye for the >>>>>> entire industry." >>>>>> >>>>>> The Fusion is Ford's best-selling car, accounting for 38 percent of >>>>>> sales for Ford-brand passenger cars this year through April and the >>>>>> Milan represents more than a third of Mercury vehicle sales, >>>>>> according >>>>>> to Ford's May 3 sales report. >>>>>> >>>>>> Optional all-weather floor mats should be installed after unfastening >>>>>> and removing the standard, carpeted floor mat on the driver's side of >>>>>> the car, NHTSA said in a May 28 statement. Owners should ensure the >>>>>> mat is "never stacked," the agency said. >>>>>> >>>>>> "We do not recommend stacking floor mats in any vehicle by any >>>>>> automaker," Ford spokesman Said Deep said in an interview. "We're not >>>>>> aware of any customer complaints or accidents with properly installed >>>>>> floor mats. We're going to cooperate fully with NHTSA." >>>>>> >>>>>> Read more: >>>>>> http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100601/OEM/100609989/ >>>>> >>>>> Only comment is LOL!! >>>> >>>> I have a 2007 Fusion. The Ford mat that came with the car detours >>>> around the area under accelerator pedal. I can't see how it could ever >>>> interfre with the accelerator pedal. However, the article mentions >>>> "unsecured all-weather floor mats," so I suppose that is the issue. I >>>> guess Ford will soon be recalling Fusions to saw off the accelerator >>>> pedals like Toyota did. >>> >>> Not if the problem is after-market floormats they won't. >> >> But isn't the problem with at least some Toyotas unsecured all weather >> floor mats? I know the offical Toyota mats include pegs for keeping them >> in place. > > Some vehicles were reported to have had that problem, but there were > others > that had NO mat at all. There were also reports of idiots putting a > rubber > mat on top of the standard Toyota mat. Doh! > > Derek I've used rubber mats on top of standard mats for 45 years. NO PROBLEMS. Maybe YOU like having your upholstered mats saturated with mud--I DO NOT. > > > >
From: C. E. White on 7 Jun 2010 08:46 "Sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Lu_On.6251$z%6.2896(a)edtnps83... > > > "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4c0c24da$0$4830$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:huaotl$qua$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "Derek Gee" <dgeeSPAMSUCKS(a)twmi.INVALID.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4c085ca4$0$4837$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hu83co$f4$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> >>>>> "dbu'" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:td6dnRe0vp5uGZjRnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>> In article <hu3tdi$4tf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan probed for mat issue >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Automotive News -- June 1, 2010 - 12:12 pm ET >>>>>>> UPDATED: 6/1/10 1:20 p.m. ET >>>>>>> >>>>>>> DETROIT (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co.'s Fusion and Mercury >>>>>>> Milan cars >>>>>>> are under investigation by U.S. regulators because floor mats >>>>>>> may trap >>>>>>> the accelerator pedals, the National Highway Traffic Safety >>>>>>> Administration said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About 249,300 cars from the 2010 model year may be affected, >>>>>>> NHTSA >>>>>>> said today on its Web site. The agency said it received three >>>>>>> complaints about accelerator pedals being trapped by unsecured >>>>>>> all-weather floor mats. No crashes or injuries have been >>>>>>> reported. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Toyota Motor Corp., the world's largest automaker, has >>>>>>> recalled about >>>>>>> 5.4 million vehicles in the past year for floor mats that the >>>>>>> company >>>>>>> said may entrap gas pedals and cause unintended acceleration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It isn't just the company that's facing the investigation or >>>>>>> recall," >>>>>>> John Wolkonowicz, an auto analyst with IHS Global Insight in >>>>>>> Lexington, Mass., said in an interview. "It's a black eye for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> entire industry." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Fusion is Ford's best-selling car, accounting for 38 >>>>>>> percent of >>>>>>> sales for Ford-brand passenger cars this year through April >>>>>>> and the >>>>>>> Milan represents more than a third of Mercury vehicle sales, >>>>>>> according >>>>>>> to Ford's May 3 sales report. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Optional all-weather floor mats should be installed after >>>>>>> unfastening >>>>>>> and removing the standard, carpeted floor mat on the driver's >>>>>>> side of >>>>>>> the car, NHTSA said in a May 28 statement. Owners should >>>>>>> ensure the >>>>>>> mat is "never stacked," the agency said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "We do not recommend stacking floor mats in any vehicle by any >>>>>>> automaker," Ford spokesman Said Deep said in an interview. >>>>>>> "We're not >>>>>>> aware of any customer complaints or accidents with properly >>>>>>> installed >>>>>>> floor mats. We're going to cooperate fully with NHTSA." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Read more: >>>>>>> http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100601/OEM/100609989/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Only comment is LOL!! >>>>> >>>>> I have a 2007 Fusion. The Ford mat that came with the car >>>>> detours >>>>> around the area under accelerator pedal. I can't see how it >>>>> could ever >>>>> interfre with the accelerator pedal. However, the article >>>>> mentions >>>>> "unsecured all-weather floor mats," so I suppose that is the >>>>> issue. I >>>>> guess Ford will soon be recalling Fusions to saw off the >>>>> accelerator >>>>> pedals like Toyota did. >>>> >>>> Not if the problem is after-market floormats they won't. >>> >>> But isn't the problem with at least some Toyotas unsecured all >>> weather >>> floor mats? I know the offical Toyota mats include pegs for >>> keeping them >>> in place. >> >> Some vehicles were reported to have had that problem, but there >> were others >> that had NO mat at all. There were also reports of idiots putting >> a rubber >> mat on top of the standard Toyota mat. Doh! >> >> Derek > > I've used rubber mats on top of standard mats for 45 years. NO > PROBLEMS. Maybe YOU like having your upholstered mats saturated with > mud--I DO NOT. So why not take out the carpet mats and just use the rubber mats? I really like the weathertek style fitted mats. They are very thin, molded to the shape of the comaprtment and don't move around at all. It seems to me they are the best alternative to protect the OE carpet. I keep the carpet mats in the trunk for special occasions. Ed
From: Frank L on 13 Jun 2010 14:45
On Jun 1, 5:17 pm, "C. E. White" <cewhi...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan probed for mat issue > > Automotive News -- June 1, 2010 - 12:12 pm ET > UPDATED: 6/1/10 1:20 p.m. ET > > DETROIT (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co.'s Fusion and Mercury Milan cars > are under investigation by U.S. regulators because floor mats may trap > the accelerator pedals, the National Highway Traffic Safety > Administration said. > > About 249,300 cars from the 2010 model year may be affected, NHTSA > said today on its Web site. The agency said it received three > complaints about accelerator pedals being trapped by unsecured > all-weather floor mats. No crashes or injuries have been reported. > > Toyota Motor Corp., the world's largest automaker, has recalled about > 5.4 million vehicles in the past year for floor mats that the company > said may entrap gas pedals and cause unintended acceleration. > > "It isn't just the company that's facing the investigation or recall," > John Wolkonowicz, an auto analyst with IHS Global Insight in > Lexington, Mass., said in an interview. "It's a black eye for the > entire industry." > > The Fusion is Ford's best-selling car, accounting for 38 percent of > sales for Ford-brand passenger cars this year through April and the > Milan represents more than a third of Mercury vehicle sales, according > to Ford's May 3 sales report. > > Optional all-weather floor mats should be installed after unfastening > and removing the standard, carpeted floor mat on the driver's side of > the car, NHTSA said in a May 28 statement. Owners should ensure the > mat is "never stacked," the agency said. > > "We do not recommend stacking floor mats in any vehicle by any > automaker," Ford spokesman Said Deep said in an interview. "We're not > aware of any customer complaints or accidents with properly installed > floor mats. We're going to cooperate fully with NHTSA." > > Read more:http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100601/OEM/10060... I had heard they had fewer than 10 compliants. Frank Lardino |