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From: Mike Hunter on 26 Oct 2009 12:15
DUH! The manuals recommended oil type and oil change interval, were CHANGED
by Toyota AFTER the sludge problems began to occur, and you wonder why we
refer to you as Joe$#itForBrains. LOL


"Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:HjiFm.10562$hO1.3030(a)newsfe21.iad...
> "mark hoffman" <betrtimes(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
> news:37t2cb.ibk.19.1(a)news.alt.net...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> Did you have it checked for Toyotas engine sludge problem?
>>
>>
>> I know there is lots of regular oil change receipts in an envelope in the
>> glove box. I love buying a car that has some documentation of servicing.
>>
>> In the envelope, is the sales contract when she bought the car, a check
>> stub that indicates she was a traveling nurse, etc, and a warning ticket
>> from the highway patrol.. couldn't make out what the ticket was for
>> though.
>>
>> Mike, what brand of synthetic do you recommend? this car will be an
>> around town use, with an occasional 2 hr round trip to Texarkana, etc.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>
> Hunter might be correct about Toyota recommending synthetic oil, but he is
> also an alcoholic, so if he *is* right, it's due purely to luck. Don't
> accept ANY car care advice from him. You should check the manual, and ONLY
> the manual for this information. Also have your mechanic check for any
> Toyota service bulletins which may have been issued for your car.
>


From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 Oct 2009 12:22
Do you own a collection of manuals for cars which you don't like? Step away
from the bottle, Uncle Jemima. It's too early in the day for that.


"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in message
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> DUH! The manuals recommended oil type and oil change interval, were
> CHANGED by Toyota AFTER the sludge problems began to occur, and you wonder
> why we refer to you as Joe$#itForBrains. LOL
>
>
> "Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:HjiFm.10562$hO1.3030(a)newsfe21.iad...
>> "mark hoffman" <betrtimes(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
>> news:37t2cb.ibk.19.1(a)news.alt.net...
>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>> Did you have it checked for Toyotas engine sludge problem?
>>>
>>>
>>> I know there is lots of regular oil change receipts in an envelope in
>>> the glove box. I love buying a car that has some documentation of
>>> servicing.
>>>
>>> In the envelope, is the sales contract when she bought the car, a check
>>> stub that indicates she was a traveling nurse, etc, and a warning ticket
>>> from the highway patrol.. couldn't make out what the ticket was for
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Mike, what brand of synthetic do you recommend? this car will be an
>>> around town use, with an occasional 2 hr round trip to Texarkana, etc.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>
>> Hunter might be correct about Toyota recommending synthetic oil, but he
>> is also an alcoholic, so if he *is* right, it's due purely to luck. Don't
>> accept ANY car care advice from him. You should check the manual, and
>> ONLY the manual for this information. Also have your mechanic check for
>> any Toyota service bulletins which may have been issued for your car.
>>
>
>


From: in2dadark on 26 Oct 2009 20:15
On Oct 26, 7:53 am, Scott in Florida <Mov...(a)outa.here> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT), 01 Camry
>
>
>
>
>
> <oceanmountai...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 24, 7:36 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:18:42 -0500, mark hoffman wrote:
> >> > I just bought a 1998 Toyota Avalon, 163,000 miles, cold air, all the power
> >> > stuff works, good headliner, 3.0 L v-6, 24 valve engine.
>
> >> > Drives and rides nice, got it for an "around town and short trips" car.
> >> > First 30 miles was getting it home from the dealer I bought it from.
>
> >> > Any advice, words of wisdom, etc? I have already ordered an owners manual
> >> > and a dealer brochure from Ebay.
>
> >> > Thanks
>
> >> Change the oil. I think these were the sludge prone engines, and regular
> >> oil changes (no more than ~5,000 miles or less) will keep it from sludging.
>
> >> Other than that, with 163K on it, it's still a baby.
>
> >> These are pretty nice cars. I think they are prettier than the later
> >> models.
>
> >My  camry is supposed to be of the 'sludge prone' models and I even
> >got an extended warranty for that in the mail from toyota. I never did
> >anything special for it and never had a problem..
>
> but you changed your oil.
>
> No one that changed their oil on time got sludge.
>
> It was a problem of owners not changing their oil......
>
> --
>
>  Scott in Florida- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

True. It's the least I could do..? :0) I did wait till 7500 miles a
time or 2..
From: in2dadark on 26 Oct 2009 20:17
On Oct 26, 10:26 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> "mark hoffman" <betrti...(a)windstream.net> wrote in message
>
> news:37t2cb.ibk.19.1(a)news.alt.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Mike Hunter wrote:
> >> Did you have it checked for Toyotas engine sludge problem?
>
> > I know there is lots of regular oil change receipts in an envelope in the
> > glove box.  I love buying a car that has some documentation of servicing.
>
> > In the envelope, is the sales contract when she bought the car, a check
> > stub that indicates she was a traveling nurse, etc, and a warning ticket
> > from the highway patrol..  couldn't make out what the ticket was for
> > though.
>
> > Mike, what brand of synthetic do you recommend? this car will be an around
> > town use, with an occasional 2 hr round trip to Texarkana, etc.
>
> > thanks
>
> Hunter might be correct about Toyota recommending synthetic oil, but he is
> also an alcoholic, so if he *is* right, it's due purely to luck. Don't
> accept ANY car care advice from him. You should check the manual, and ONLY
> the manual for this information. Also have your mechanic check for any
> Toyota service bulletins which may have been issued for your car.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're confusing alcoholism with senility.. He's just very old. I
think he's only drunk 3 or 4 times a week..
From: in2dadark on 27 Oct 2009 19:16
On Oct 26, 11:45 am, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote:
> You should take your car to a Toyota dealership for the free sludge
> inspection to be certain it is actually not building up sludge. Dealers
> are authorized under that warranty to "Inspect, clean, repair or REPLACE as
> needed for any engine INDICATING Gelling," as Toyota refers to its problem.
> That is why the shark lawyer can not win any litigation over their sludge
> problem
>
> At least you can get the engine cleaned before that extended warranty
> expires, shortly. The mileage is unlimited but the term is only ten years.
> Seems Toyota is willing to pass on the problem to the next owner(s), after
> ten years by "cleaning" them "as needed," before the engine NEEDS to be
> "repaired or replaced." ;)
>
> "01 Camry" <oceanmountai...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:73319398-9db4-4524-946e-e0d516659cc7(a)m25g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 7:36 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:18:42 -0500, mark hoffman wrote:
> >> > I just bought a 1998 Toyota Avalon, 163,000 miles, cold air, all the
> >> > power
> >> > stuff works, good headliner, 3.0 L v-6, 24 valve engine.
>
> >> > Drives and rides nice, got it for an "around town and short trips" car.
> >> > First 30 miles was getting it home from the dealer I bought it from.
>
> >> > Any advice, words of wisdom, etc? I have already ordered an owners
> >> > manual
> >> > and a dealer brochure from Ebay.
>
> >> > Thanks
>
> >> Change the oil. I think these were the sludge prone engines, and regular
> >> oil changes (no more than ~5,000 miles or less) will keep it from
> >> sludging.
>
> >> Other than that, with 163K on it, it's still a baby.
>
> >> These are pretty nice cars. I think they are prettier than the later
> >> models.
>
> > My camry is supposed to be of the 'sludge prone' models and I even
> > got an extended warranty for that in the mail from toyota. I never did
> > anything special for it and never had a problem..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not a bad idea.
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