Finally, a Fully Respectable High-Volume 4-Cyl. Engine
in [Toyota]
|
Prev: Toyota Carina ED Headlight Bulb Replacement Guide With Pictures
Next: Americans show preference for U.S.-made cars, poll finds
From: john on 22 Apr 2010 21:59 http://wardsauto.com/home/respectable_4-cyl_engine_100421/ The Wards 10 Best Engines competition has recognized outstanding powertrain development for 16 years. This month, Wards explores the history of GMs direct-injection 2.4L Ecotec I-4. A quick count of this years 10 Best Engines award winners reveals no fewer than six 4-bangers: two turbocharged, two HEVs, one diesel and even one naturally aspirated, workaday 4-cyl. engine General Motors Co.s 2.4L Ecotec. In the Equinox, Wards editors raved, this engine never fails to delight with ready throttle response and strong mid-range acceleration. Several were astonished to achieve 30 mpg (7.8L/100 km) in the Equinox in mixed driving, without babying it. And well bet some, if they had not known it was a 4-cyl., might have mistaken it for a V-6 as many other reviewers have.
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Apr 2010 19:44 What part of "GM's direct-injection 2.4L Ecotec I-4," did you not understand? LOL "me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message news:0n94t5d3jfp3p11so0f4i8u5dp8l9bftk8(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:54:31 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net> > wrote: > >> >>Sounds a lot like the VW turbo motor... based on an early 70's design... >>not saying that the GM motor isn't good (I have no experience with it) >>but there have been excellent four-poppers available for decades. >> >>nat > > Yes... GM's latest is to finally catch up by turbo-charging 4-cyl > motors - something Saab started doing over 30 years ago.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 23 Apr 2010 23:26 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:59:03 -0700, john wrote: > http://wardsauto.com/home/respectable_4-cyl_engine_100421/ > > The Ward's 10 Best Engines competition has recognized outstanding > powertrain development for 16 years. This month, Ward's explores the > history of GM's direct-injection 2.4L Ecotec I-4. What about the Toyota 1.8L used in the Celica GTS that puts out the same HP in a smaller package? It's built on a platform that's been around since the 1967 Toyota 2000 GT using Yamaha heads, and has been used around the world in various cars and forms since? BTW, it's one of the most reliable engine series around.
From: hls on 25 Apr 2010 12:18 "Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote in message >> That will be a first for GM... > > Sounds a lot like the VW turbo motor... based on an early 70's design... > not saying that the GM motor isn't good (I have no experience with it) > but there have been excellent four-poppers available for decades. > > nate True, there have been, Nate, but I cant remember GM making any of them.
From: Vic Smith on 27 Apr 2010 12:39
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:18:33 -0500, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >"Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote in message >>> That will be a first for GM... >> >> Sounds a lot like the VW turbo motor... based on an early 70's design... >> not saying that the GM motor isn't good (I have no experience with it) >> but there have been excellent four-poppers available for decades. >> >> nate > >True, there have been, Nate, but I cant remember GM making >any of them. Depends on your definition of "excellent." I've had a 2.0 Cav and a 2.2 Corsica that both ran past +120k miles when I junked them because of body rot. Total engine work done: 1 water pump on the 2.0. +30 mpg highway, and +20mpg city. All "excellent" to me. Of course they were dogs accelerating. I rented a 2005 Malibu with the Ecotec for a long trip, and it was a world of difference. I was impressed. I'll might end up with an Ecotec in my next new used car. First I heard of them was a workmate with a Ecotec Malibu asked for my "dealing with mechanics" advice back in about 2002. His water pump failed and his mech told him he might need new heads. Only had about 60k miles on it. Turned out he didn't, but he still dished out $600 for the stuff under the cam cover. I read up the Ecotec a bit and saw it was OHC, and figured I'd never see one, being happy with pushrods, timing chains and external mounted water pumps. Still am, but I might not much choice when I get my next car. Wish we had the dealer mechs here like before. Shiden was one. They could tell you the good/bad about various engines because they saw them all day. In any case the Ecotec was a real game changer for GM. Too bad it's the ninth inning. I did see on an Ecotec forum a way to change out the water pump through a cam cover access panel without moving the timing belt. That was encouraging. Maybe I can get over my distaste for OHC. --Vic |