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From: Retired VIP on 30 Dec 2009 10:20 On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:42:23 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: >In article ><1c3a5fc1-93bd-49e0-9e56-c28f44bc59ad(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, > john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> �It was a sensation of losing control,� reports 39-year-old Robert >> Becker, when he recalls what happened when he tried to slow down at an >> intersection near his home on the west side of Manhattan. All was >> going smoothly until he hit a pothole and suddenly, �the brakes seemed >> to release.� The human resources executive adds that, �it scared the >> hell out of me. I wasn�t sure I could stop in time. >> >> He did � barely � but since then, Becker has had the problem repeat >> itself regularly. And so have a number of other owners of the Gen-3 >> 2010 Prius, according to complaints filed with the National Highway >> Traffic Safety Administration, as well as comments posted on owner >> chat sites like PriusChat.com. >> >> Full article at: >> http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2009/12/is-toyota%E2%80%99s-image-about-to-cru >> mble/#more-17086 > >All of this reminds me of when ABS came out, and cops everywhere swore >they hated it and that it was useless and that it caused them problems >and even crashes. > >That people are ignorant and can't figure out what's happening and/or >compensate for it, is a damn shame. What is even more of a damn shame is that you have to learn to compensate for a 'safety feature'. Yes, you can compensate for the behavior of an ABS but you shouldn't have to. It should operate unobtrusively and it should not be fooled by bumps, potholes or ripples. Compensating for unexpected behavior only slows down your reaction speed and while it may not directly cause an accident, it can be a large contributing factor toward the cause.
From: Heron McKeister on 30 Dec 2009 10:31 "Retired VIP" <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote in message news:2hrmj5p57ssgi62dlhe40hnhr5p1cf1n1h(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:42:23 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: > > >In article > ><1c3a5fc1-93bd-49e0-9e56-c28f44bc59ad(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, > > john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> �It was a sensation of losing control,� reports 39-year-old Robert > >> Becker, when he recalls what happened when he tried to slow down at an > >> intersection near his home on the west side of Manhattan. All was > >> going smoothly until he hit a pothole and suddenly, �the brakes seemed > >> to release.� The human resources executive adds that, �it scared the > >> hell out of me. I wasn�t sure I could stop in time. > >> > >> He did � barely � but since then, Becker has had the problem repeat > >> itself regularly. And so have a number of other owners of the Gen-3 > >> 2010 Prius, according to complaints filed with the National Highway > >> Traffic Safety Administration, as well as comments posted on owner > >> chat sites like PriusChat.com. > >> > >> Full article at: > >> http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2009/12/is-toyota%E2%80%99s-image-about-to-cru > >> mble/#more-17086 > > > >All of this reminds me of when ABS came out, and cops everywhere swore > >they hated it and that it was useless and that it caused them problems > >and even crashes. > > > >That people are ignorant and can't figure out what's happening and/or > >compensate for it, is a damn shame. > > What is even more of a damn shame is that you have to learn to > compensate for a 'safety feature'. Yes, you can compensate for the > behavior of an ABS but you shouldn't have to. It should operate > unobtrusively and it should not be fooled by bumps, potholes or > ripples. Compensating for unexpected behavior only slows down your > reaction speed and while it may not directly cause an accident, it can > be a large contributing factor toward the cause. The only compensation a driver need do is not freak-out at the sound or pedal sensation which hardly negatively affects transient response time.
From: Ashton Crusher on 30 Dec 2009 15:08
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:20:50 -0500, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote: >On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:42:23 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" ><elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: > >>In article >><1c3a5fc1-93bd-49e0-9e56-c28f44bc59ad(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, >> john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> �It was a sensation of losing control,� reports 39-year-old Robert >>> Becker, when he recalls what happened when he tried to slow down at an >>> intersection near his home on the west side of Manhattan. All was >>> going smoothly until he hit a pothole and suddenly, �the brakes seemed >>> to release.� The human resources executive adds that, �it scared the >>> hell out of me. I wasn�t sure I could stop in time. >>> >>> He did � barely � but since then, Becker has had the problem repeat >>> itself regularly. And so have a number of other owners of the Gen-3 >>> 2010 Prius, according to complaints filed with the National Highway >>> Traffic Safety Administration, as well as comments posted on owner >>> chat sites like PriusChat.com. >>> >>> Full article at: >>> http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2009/12/is-toyota%E2%80%99s-image-about-to-cru >>> mble/#more-17086 >> >>All of this reminds me of when ABS came out, and cops everywhere swore >>they hated it and that it was useless and that it caused them problems >>and even crashes. >> >>That people are ignorant and can't figure out what's happening and/or >>compensate for it, is a damn shame. > >What is even more of a damn shame is that you have to learn to >compensate for a 'safety feature'. Yes, you can compensate for the >behavior of an ABS but you shouldn't have to. It should operate >unobtrusively and it should not be fooled by bumps, potholes or >ripples. Compensating for unexpected behavior only slows down your >reaction speed and while it may not directly cause an accident, it can >be a large contributing factor toward the cause. There is no need to compensate for the new systems. Just plant your foot if your goal is to stop and ignore the pulsations. |