From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
Didn't want to say this with Gloating Johnnie hovering over, but I had an
'85 P/U that was having a hard time getting up hills. I couldn't figure it
out until someone said, what about the fuel filter? I had gotten the truck
from my stepfather and he was horrible at auto maintenance, so it seemd
like a good bet. Now, this was an '85, and I had it from '91 to '93, and
the bed was rotting on the sides like a lot of them did. I lifted the hood
looking for the filter, and then I remembered the trucks got them near the
tank, si I bent down and...I'm looking at daylight. But, the bed isn't
THAT rusty!!! So I went to the other side of the truck, and sure enough,
the bed wasn't that rusty. I got down on my hands and knees...and saw I
was looking through an 18" hole...in the FRAME!!!

My wife said "my brother can weld that". I said, your brother can have the
truck! and sold it for $125 to a junkyard. They took it off the road and
ran it in the yard for a while.

BTW, ALL Toyota beds sold in the US are made in...California. So the
factory can't be blamed for the rusting beds. But the frame...


From: Tegger on
Conscience <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in
news:hjqqlh$q0s$1(a)news.albasani.net:


>
> It isn't just Tacomas, apparently. I read something a few weeks ago
> about early-Tundra owners being offered recompense regarding frame
> rust.
>
>



The rusty frames were made by Dana, an American company. Dana had allowed
their people to get sloppy and ignore Toyota's corrosion-protection
standards.

Now the problem is CTS, another American company. The gas pedal parts in
question were made at CTS's Canadian plant.

In fact, just about all of Toyota's recent recalls have involved North
American suppliers. Doesn't say much for us, does it?


--
Tegger

From: Mike Hunter on
Typical Toyota loyalist, blame someone else. The problem was not Dana's
problem, they had to use the Japanese Nippon steel supplied by Toyota.

Ford has been making F150 frames for years with Bethlehem, now Mittel Steel,
and they last much longer than three years.


"Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
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> Conscience <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in
> news:hjqqlh$q0s$1(a)news.albasani.net:
>
>
>>
>> It isn't just Tacomas, apparently. I read something a few weeks ago
>> about early-Tundra owners being offered recompense regarding frame
>> rust.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> The rusty frames were made by Dana, an American company. Dana had allowed
> their people to get sloppy and ignore Toyota's corrosion-protection
> standards.
>
> Now the problem is CTS, another American company. The gas pedal parts in
> question were made at CTS's Canadian plant.
>
> In fact, just about all of Toyota's recent recalls have involved North
> American suppliers. Doesn't say much for us, does it?
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>


From: Tegger on
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in
news:4b60f9b1$0$22832$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net:

> Typical Toyota loyalist, blame someone else. The problem was not
> Dana's problem, they had to use the Japanese Nippon steel supplied by
> Toyota.



Japanese-made frames use "Nippon" steel and they don't rust.

Steel rusts unless you prevent it from doing so with surface treatmenets.
Dana failed to do what the Japanese supplier did, and so their frames
rusted.


--
Tegger

From: Tom on


"Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9D0E4ABB4F8Ctegger(a)208.90.168.18...
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote in
> news:4b60f9b1$0$22832$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net:
>
>> Typical Toyota loyalist, blame someone else. The problem was not
>> Dana's problem, they had to use the Japanese Nippon steel supplied by
>> Toyota.
>
>
>
> Japanese-made frames use "Nippon" steel and they don't rust.
>
> Steel rusts unless you prevent it from doing so with surface treatmenets.
> Dana failed to do what the Japanese supplier did, and so their frames
> rusted.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
So are you saying Toyota accepted bad parts from Dana and put them on their
trucks. so much for toyota quality
and they continued to buy from dana. Don�t think so.