From: little johnny on

Apparently in a Ford the fuckin roof can cave in on your head and your
brakes in your Jeep can fail, sending you crashing into a retailing
wall and sending you through the windshield, decrapitating you like a
soldier getting his head sawed off by the talibans.

http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/cars/chrysler-ford-announce-recalls-1.2093219
From: C. E. White on

"little johnny" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Apparently in a Ford the fuckin roof can cave in on your head

Not exactly the roof - it says the head liner. Not a good thing, but far
less worrisome that having the "roof cave in on your head."

Ed

and your
> brakes in your Jeep can fail, sending you crashing into a retailing
> wall and sending you through the windshield, decrapitating you like a
> soldier getting his head sawed off by the talibans.
>
> http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/cars/chrysler-ford-announce-recalls-1.2093219


From: ttle johnny on
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:52:53 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"little johnny" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:gsmj3693vs1i8dfhlg7r7ncf1hrcnbo9bg(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> Apparently in a Ford the fuckin roof can cave in on your head
>
>Not exactly the roof - it says the head liner. Not a good thing, but far
>less worrisome that having the "roof cave in on your head."

Not when the head liner falls down over your eyes, impairing your
vision and causing you hit a Ford Pinto from behind, which in turn
explodes and turns you into a screaming fireball with an epiphany that
a head liner that won't stay put is indeed worrisome.
From: C. E. White on

"ttle johnny" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:52:53 -0400, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"little johnny" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:gsmj3693vs1i8dfhlg7r7ncf1hrcnbo9bg(a)4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Apparently in a Ford the fuckin roof can cave in on your head
>>
>>Not exactly the roof - it says the head liner. Not a good thing, but far
>>less worrisome that having the "roof cave in on your head."
>
> Not when the head liner falls down over your eyes, impairing your
> vision and causing you hit a Ford Pinto from behind, which in turn
> explodes and turns you into a screaming fireball with an epiphany that
> a head liner that won't stay put is indeed worrisome.

The headliner came down during a crash test, not during routine driving. The
way it seems to me, this is a minor issue. You have a crash and during the
crash a piece of flock covered cardboard drops down. I don't think the
cardboard would be your biggest concern at that point.

Ed


From: little johnny on
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:38:42 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"ttle johnny" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:8sen365uvdt35h8aer919ibt2vm55apmif(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:52:53 -0400, "C. E. White"
>> <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"little johnny" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:gsmj3693vs1i8dfhlg7r7ncf1hrcnbo9bg(a)4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Apparently in a Ford the fuckin roof can cave in on your head
>>>
>>>Not exactly the roof - it says the head liner. Not a good thing, but far
>>>less worrisome that having the "roof cave in on your head."
>>
>> Not when the head liner falls down over your eyes, impairing your
>> vision and causing you hit a Ford Pinto from behind, which in turn
>> explodes and turns you into a screaming fireball with an epiphany that
>> a head liner that won't stay put is indeed worrisome.
>
>The headliner came down during a crash test, not during routine driving. The
>way it seems to me, this is a minor issue. You have a crash and during the
>crash a piece of flock covered cardboard drops down. I don't think the
>cardboard would be your biggest concern at that point.
>

Just because it only occurred under one test circumstance does not
mean that's the only way it can occur. An unsecured headliner is an
unsecured headliner and is dangerous. Someone probably thought that
putting all weather mats over top of carpet ones would be no big deal
as well. Also why aren't you talking about the failed Jeep brakes,
are you only a fan of Ford? If so, why are you pestering Toyota and
Lexus newsgroups?