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From: Ray O on 20 Apr 2008 17:25 "franz fripplfrappl" <bogus(a)bogus.net> wrote in message news:yAMOj.4541$vF.3871(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > 2003 Highlander with 51,000 miles. > > Both Check Engine and VSC lights are on. Manuals says take to Toyota > dealer. Meanwhile OK to drive. > > I have tried the ABS system on loose gravel and the brakes feel and sound > like they are functioning OK. > > Any ideas what might be causing the lights to go on? I have had the > vehicle for a week. No idea of age of battery or service record. > Take the car to a Toyota dealer. The repairs may be covered by the emissions warranty. I doubt if a loose gas cap caused all those trouble codes, there is probably a problem with one of the evaporative emissions valve. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Jeff Strickland on 20 Apr 2008 17:36 "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:-LWdnVzzu5LAKJbVnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > > "franz fripplfrappl" <bogus(a)bogus.net> wrote in message > news:yAMOj.4541$vF.3871(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >> 2003 Highlander with 51,000 miles. >> >> Both Check Engine and VSC lights are on. Manuals says take to Toyota >> dealer. Meanwhile OK to drive. >> >> I have tried the ABS system on loose gravel and the brakes feel and sound >> like they are functioning OK. >> >> Any ideas what might be causing the lights to go on? I have had the >> vehicle for a week. No idea of age of battery or service record. >> > > Take the car to a Toyota dealer. The repairs may be covered by the > emissions warranty. I doubt if a loose gas cap caused all those trouble > codes, there is probably a problem with one of the evaporative emissions > valve. > -- I don't agree. I suggest making sure the cap is properly secured, then taking the car for service if the code returns. The reported codes are classic loose cap codes. One is a gross leak the other is a minor leak. Neither is a safety-of-flight item, so there is ample time and opportunity to check the free stuff before spending money.
From: mack on 20 Apr 2008 17:46 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:pHOOj.3376$aq4.1762(a)trnddc02... > > "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message > news:-LWdnVzzu5LAKJbVnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >> >> "franz fripplfrappl" <bogus(a)bogus.net> wrote in message >> news:yAMOj.4541$vF.3871(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >>> 2003 Highlander with 51,000 miles. >>> >>> Both Check Engine and VSC lights are on. Manuals says take to Toyota >>> dealer. Meanwhile OK to drive. >>> >>> I have tried the ABS system on loose gravel and the brakes feel and >>> sound >>> like they are functioning OK. >>> >>> Any ideas what might be causing the lights to go on? I have had the >>> vehicle for a week. No idea of age of battery or service record. >>> >> >> Take the car to a Toyota dealer. The repairs may be covered by the >> emissions warranty. I doubt if a loose gas cap caused all those trouble >> codes, there is probably a problem with one of the evaporative emissions >> valve. >> -- > > > I don't agree. I suggest making sure the cap is properly secured, then > taking the car for service if the code returns. > > The reported codes are classic loose cap codes. One is a gross leak the > other is a minor leak. Neither is a safety-of-flight item, so there is > ample time and opportunity to check the free stuff before spending money. > I've got to agree with Jeff. S. My one hour at the Toy dealer to find out that my multiple error codes were based on a loose gas cap cost me $88 labor, and the problem never returned....believe me, I give the gas cap another couple of twirls now!
From: Jeff Strickland on 20 Apr 2008 18:38 "mack" <mackerel(a)dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:0ROOj.35486$oQ4.12147(a)fe113.usenetserver.com... > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr(a)verizon.net> wrote in message > news:pHOOj.3376$aq4.1762(a)trnddc02... >> >> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message >> news:-LWdnVzzu5LAKJbVnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >>> >>> "franz fripplfrappl" <bogus(a)bogus.net> wrote in message >>> news:yAMOj.4541$vF.3871(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >>>> 2003 Highlander with 51,000 miles. >>>> >>>> Both Check Engine and VSC lights are on. Manuals says take to Toyota >>>> dealer. Meanwhile OK to drive. >>>> >>>> I have tried the ABS system on loose gravel and the brakes feel and >>>> sound >>>> like they are functioning OK. >>>> >>>> Any ideas what might be causing the lights to go on? I have had the >>>> vehicle for a week. No idea of age of battery or service record. >>>> >>> >>> Take the car to a Toyota dealer. The repairs may be covered by the >>> emissions warranty. I doubt if a loose gas cap caused all those trouble >>> codes, there is probably a problem with one of the evaporative emissions >>> valve. >>> -- >> >> >> I don't agree. I suggest making sure the cap is properly secured, then >> taking the car for service if the code returns. >> >> The reported codes are classic loose cap codes. One is a gross leak the >> other is a minor leak. Neither is a safety-of-flight item, so there is >> ample time and opportunity to check the free stuff before spending money. >> > I've got to agree with Jeff. S. My one hour at the Toy dealer to find > out that my multiple error codes were based on a loose gas cap cost me $88 > labor, and the problem never returned....believe me, I give the gas cap > another couple of twirls now! > And THAT is my only point. If the gas cap is not the problem, the code will return, and there is nothing lost in the mean time. If the cap is the problem, the code will not return and there is no cost in the mean time. Either way, one that watches the cap is money ahead, or no money behind.
From: franz fripplfrappl on 20 Apr 2008 19:44 On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:25:52 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote: > "franz fripplfrappl" <bogus(a)bogus.net> wrote in message > news:unOOj.1106$ix6.929(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.net... >> >> >> Thanks again. Will check the cap and make sure gasket and where it >> seats are both clean and smooth. May even put o-ring lubricant just to >> be sure. > > You can do that if you want, but all you really need to do is make sure > the cap clicks a few times when you put it on. If you have others that > also put gas in the car -- a Main Squeeze for example -- them make sure > they also put several clicks on the cap. AFTER you do that, then star > looking at the cap itself. > > This is not a problem that will cause any other problems. You have > plenty of time to investigate doing stuff that is free before you have > to open the checkbook for professional repairs. Thanks for the help AND reassurance. I am still in GMC pickup mode, the vehicle I had before the Highlander. Will be more careful and definitely will listen for the clicks.
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