From: CIL on
What is the temperature (weather) where you are attempting to start the
vehicle? If very cold or very hot the 4 year old battery is probably shot.
That is my bet, let us know.
"peternoon" <peternoon(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In this guy's case he doesn't know enough to even start to diagnose
> and fix his car. I'd say jump start it, drive it to the shop and be
> sure to take the check book. And he might want to consider a
> membership in AAA for future problems.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Firstly, I actually know more than you think but this time I am
flabbergasted because in little more than a day it does not even have
power for the immobiliser flashing LED
Secondly, I do have a volt meter but it is at my place of work and
need the car to go and collect it (D'oh)
Thirdly I do (or did) have a membership of a rescue service but the
wife forgot to renew it (her job) and it expired 2 days ago. That's
usually the case, innit?

The battery is about 4 years old and the alternator is only 1.5 years
old

That is why I thought it could be a broken connection, blown fuse or
something like that, but where?


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:54:55 -0800, peternoon wrote:

> On 2 Dec, 15:50, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Check under the hood for a fuse block.....
>
> Thank you, I will try these things. I hope you are a Toyota
> engineer. ;-)


No, I just have a fleet of beaters!

Ray O is about the closest thing we have here. He actually worked for
Toyota.

Also, you may want to give a shout to comboverfish in rec.autos.tech. He
*IS* a Certified Toyota tech, and from his answers here (he left becuase
of all the political bickering) he's a damn good one!


From: Fat Moe on
CIL wrote:
> What is the temperature (weather) where you are attempting to start the
> vehicle? If very cold or very hot the 4 year old battery is probably shot.
> That is my bet, let us know.
> "peternoon" <peternoon(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1465cc6e-baea-4f13-8d84-8f660fa28cdc(a)l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
>> In this guy's case he doesn't know enough to even start to diagnose
>> and fix his car. I'd say jump start it, drive it to the shop and be
>> sure to take the check book. And he might want to consider a
>> membership in AAA for future problems.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Firstly, I actually know more than you think but this time I am
> flabbergasted because in little more than a day it does not even have
> power for the immobiliser flashing LED
> Secondly, I do have a volt meter but it is at my place of work and
> need the car to go and collect it (D'oh)
> Thirdly I do (or did) have a membership of a rescue service but the
> wife forgot to renew it (her job) and it expired 2 days ago. That's
> usually the case, innit?
>
> The battery is about 4 years old and the alternator is only 1.5 years
> old
>
> That is why I thought it could be a broken connection, blown fuse or
> something like that, but where?
>
>
OK, where I would start is with the battery cable connection, if you
can get a meter or test light, test post to post, then post to opposite
cable, vice versa, positive to engine, then chase the wires or get a
diagram and start checking the starter circuit. In most cases the
battery has gone bad or the battery cables need cleaning. Actually
what I would do and usually do is just put a small battery charger on it
maybe a 10 amp one, you can get a good idea of the condition of the
battery by how many amps it is drawing and how long it takes to charge
the battery. Start by touching the battery clips to the posts (it will
spark and could blow up) so don't look directly at it while doing this,
turn your head and use just one eye so you don't lose them both if it
does). And then touch the cables and see if the same current is going
through the cables to the battery. I think you get the idea.
Let us know what you found wrong, and how you fixed it.
From: Nza on
On Dec 3, 5:54 am, Fat Moe <Fat...(a)BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:

> the battery.  Start by touching the battery clips to the posts (it will
> spark and could blow up) so don't look directly at it while doing this,

i had a battery explode once.. i dropped it, like an idiot, and it
must've shorted internally... charged fine, but when I put it in my
car and hit the start switch, *BOOM*... thank goodness the hood was
closed.. blew the whole top of the battery clean off.
From: Retired VIP on
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:38:10 -0800 (PST), Nza <thenza(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Dec 3, 5:54�am, Fat Moe <Fat...(a)BubbleWorld.Com> wrote:
>
>> the battery. �Start by touching the battery clips to the posts (it will
>> spark and could blow up) so don't look directly at it while doing this,
>
>i had a battery explode once.. i dropped it, like an idiot, and it
>must've shorted internally... charged fine, but when I put it in my
>car and hit the start switch, *BOOM*... thank goodness the hood was
>closed.. blew the whole top of the battery clean off.

I had a stationary generator battery blow up once. It was a diesel
powered 500 kW Cummins and used 2 - 12 volt truck batteries for 24
volt starter motor. The trickle charger failed to shut down and when
the generator started for it's weekly exercise, the batteries blew the
tops and one side off of each. Acid all over everything in the
generator room, made a mess.

Jack j