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From: camryguy on 4 Jun 2010 02:31
On Jun 3, 8:56 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 11:11 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have always found that on cold starts, my car always revs high on
> > its own. Not at 4000 or 5000 RPM, but probably 1800 if not more, but
> > never more than 2000. I misread the initial post. I thought he said at
> > 2000 RPM, but only now am I noticing that the car is revving more than
> > 2000. Sorry for the misleading post.
>
> That is considered way to fast.

Ransley, the car is 10 years old and has 215,000kms on it. I would
think that if the initial revving was too high, that some sort of
mechanical issue would have risen as a result. Non so far. When it is
negative 25 degrees Celsius outside, and the car has been sitting
outside all night, its going to rev itself higher than if it were 10
degrees. And today, I noticed that when I started the car this morning
for the first time, it revved up to 1500 RPM. It was 14 degrees and
needed to warm up. I let it settle down, and off I went. If a problem
arises because of this, I'll let you know.
From: ransley on 4 Jun 2010 06:53
On Jun 4, 1:31 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:56 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 3, 11:11 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I have always found that on cold starts, my car always revs high on
> > > its own. Not at 4000 or 5000 RPM, but probably 1800 if not more, but
> > > never more than 2000. I misread the initial post. I thought he said at
> > > 2000 RPM, but only now am I noticing that the car is revving more than
> > > 2000. Sorry for the misleading post.
>
> > That is considered way to fast.
>
> Ransley, the car is 10 years old and has 215,000kms on it. I would
> think that if the initial revving was too high, that some sort of
> mechanical issue would have risen as a result. Non so far. When it is
> negative 25 degrees Celsius outside, and the car has been sitting
> outside all night, its going to rev itself higher than if it were 10
> degrees. And today, I noticed that when I started the car this morning
> for the first time, it revved up to 1500 RPM. It was 14 degrees and
> needed to warm up. I let it settle down, and off I went. If a problem
> arises because of this, I'll let you know.

Your just a bit blind to how things work in life.
From: camryguy on 4 Jun 2010 12:44
On Jun 4, 7:53 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 1:31 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 8:56 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 3, 11:11 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I have always found that on cold starts, my car always revs high on
> > > > its own. Not at 4000 or 5000 RPM, but probably 1800 if not more, but
> > > > never more than 2000. I misread the initial post. I thought he said at
> > > > 2000 RPM, but only now am I noticing that the car is revving more than
> > > > 2000. Sorry for the misleading post.
>
> > > That is considered way to fast.
>
> > Ransley, the car is 10 years old and has 215,000kms on it. I would
> > think that if the initial revving was too high, that some sort of
> > mechanical issue would have risen as a result. Non so far. When it is
> > negative 25 degrees Celsius outside, and the car has been sitting
> > outside all night, its going to rev itself higher than if it were 10
> > degrees. And today, I noticed that when I started the car this morning
> > for the first time, it revved up to 1500 RPM. It was 14 degrees and
> > needed to warm up. I let it settle down, and off I went. If a problem
> > arises because of this, I'll let you know.
>
> Your just a bit blind to how things work in life.

How so? I stated a fact, and it doesn't agree with yours. You may have
a Camry, but you don't have my Camry, or his. Just let it go and
accept that there are different pinions in this world.
From: ransley on 5 Jun 2010 07:44
On Jun 4, 11:44 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 7:53 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 1:31 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 3, 8:56 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 3, 11:11 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I have always found that on cold starts, my car always revs high on
> > > > > its own. Not at 4000 or 5000 RPM, but probably 1800 if not more, but
> > > > > never more than 2000. I misread the initial post. I thought he said at
> > > > > 2000 RPM, but only now am I noticing that the car is revving more than
> > > > > 2000. Sorry for the misleading post.
>
> > > > That is considered way to fast.
>
> > > Ransley, the car is 10 years old and has 215,000kms on it. I would
> > > think that if the initial revving was too high, that some sort of
> > > mechanical issue would have risen as a result. Non so far. When it is
> > > negative 25 degrees Celsius outside, and the car has been sitting
> > > outside all night, its going to rev itself higher than if it were 10
> > > degrees. And today, I noticed that when I started the car this morning
> > > for the first time, it revved up to 1500 RPM. It was 14 degrees and
> > > needed to warm up. I let it settle down, and off I went. If a problem
> > > arises because of this, I'll let you know.
>
> > Your just a bit blind to how things work in life.
>
> How so? I stated a fact, and it doesn't agree with yours. You may have
> a Camry, but you don't have my Camry, or his. Just let it go and
> accept that there are different pinions in this world.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Understand damage occurs slowly, Camry engines can go 300,000++ miles
under optimal conditions, damage that occurs is just something that
will reduce enging life from years old cold temp reving, slowly, it
could make a 3k motor die an early death at 1-150,000. My camry thats
run in -20f has 110,000 miles and recently had a pollution test done,
its ready for another 200,000++ judging by the EPA pollution test
parameters the motor is at now. Do your self a favor and google
"effects of oil starvation from cold start", "cold start oil
starvation" "High rpm oil bypass valve" "engine wear at startup from
lack of oil" "Bypassing oil from Bypass oil filter valve" etc. You
are subjecting your car to a dry engine start that is proven to reduce
engine life up to 50%, that bypasses the filter with dirty oil going
through the engine, at the time your engine needs oil the most. Its a
common problem that synthetics have done alot to fix. You are not
immune to this, you are just now aware of all the things going on
inside the motor that slowly hurt it, its like driving hard or not
changing oil regularly, they just reduce engine life slowly. I have
actualy seen motors visably degrade in just weeks from this practice
of high reving at startup, at extreme cold. Try a test, put some
regular oil in your deep freeze and see how it pours compared to warm
oil, it just cant circulate to the top of the motor fast enough to not
cause damage. There are sites you can google thet give time in minutes
that you can be running with no oil due to cold thick oil, now add the
factor of high rpm and the seriousness becomes evident to engine wear.
If high rpm was better to warm faster, cars would be made that way
from the factory.
From: Wes on 9 Jun 2010 09:34
On Jun 5, 7:44 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 11:44 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 7:53 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 4, 1:31 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 3, 8:56 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...(a)Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 3, 11:11 am, camryguy <anthonyza...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I have always found that on cold starts, my car always revs high on
> > > > > > its own. Not at 4000 or 5000 RPM, but probably 1800 if not more, but
> > > > > > never more than 2000. I misread the initial post. I thought he said at
> > > > > > 2000 RPM, but only now am I noticing that the car is revving more than
> > > > > > 2000. Sorry for the misleading post.
>
> > > > > That is considered way to fast.
>
> > > > Ransley, the car is 10 years old and has 215,000kms on it. I would
> > > > think that if the initial revving was too high, that some sort of
> > > > mechanical issue would have risen as a result. Non so far. When it is
> > > > negative 25 degrees Celsius outside, and the car has been sitting
> > > > outside all night, its going to rev itself higher than if it were 10
> > > > degrees. And today, I noticed that when I started the car this morning
> > > > for the first time, it revved up to 1500 RPM. It was 14 degrees and
> > > > needed to warm up. I let it settle down, and off I went. If a problem
> > > > arises because of this, I'll let you know.
>
> > > Your just a bit blind to how things work in life.
>
> > How so? I stated a fact, and it doesn't agree with yours. You may have
> > a Camry, but you don't have my Camry, or his. Just let it go and
> > accept that there are different pinions in this world.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Understand damage occurs slowly, Camry engines can go 300,000++ miles
> under optimal conditions, damage that occurs is just something that
> will reduce enging life from years old cold temp reving, slowly, it
> could make a 3k motor die an early death at 1-150,000. My camry thats
> run in -20f has 110,000 miles and recently had a pollution test done,
> its ready for another 200,000++ judging by the EPA pollution test
> parameters the motor is at now. Do your self a favor and google
> "effects of oil starvation from cold start", "cold start oil
> starvation" "High rpm oil bypass valve" "engine wear at startup from
> lack of oil"   "Bypassing oil from Bypass oil filter valve" etc. You
> are subjecting your car to a dry engine start that is proven to reduce
> engine life up to 50%, that bypasses the filter with dirty oil going
> through the engine, at the time your engine needs oil the most. Its a
> common problem that synthetics have done alot to fix. You are not
> immune to this, you are just now aware of all the things going on
> inside the motor that slowly hurt it, its like driving hard or not
> changing oil regularly, they just reduce engine life slowly. I have
> actualy seen motors visably degrade in just weeks from this practice
> of high reving at startup, at extreme cold. Try a test, put some
> regular oil in your deep freeze and see how it pours compared to warm
> oil, it just cant circulate to the top of the motor fast enough to not
> cause damage. There are sites you can google thet give time in minutes
> that you can be running with no oil due to cold thick oil, now add the
> factor of high rpm and the seriousness becomes evident to engine wear.
> If high rpm was better to warm faster, cars would be made that way
> from the factory.

I am curious to what would be recommended in very cold weather, is it
recommended that the car would warm up and drop to 600-800 rpm before
driving? I have never paid attention to this, and it gets very cold
in winter here in Ontario-Canada.
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