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From: n5hsr on 23 Sep 2007 20:57 "dbu`" <nps(a)alllegal.com> wrote in message news:nps-AD5DFE.19352523092007(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com... > In article <1190593889.872915.96810(a)19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, > Johnny Hageyama <hageyama(a)hairdresser.net> wrote: > >> Mike Hunter wrote: >> >> > > My point is that since the turn of the 20th century, my family has >> > > been >> > > living LESS well overall. Modern medicine doesn't seem to do us much >> > > good. The ones that died natural deaths prior to 1900 mostly lived >> > > longer >> > > than the family members now. >> > > >> > > Charles of Schaumburg >> > > >> > What does that have to do with the fact the average life span has been >> > increasing in the US for many years, not decreasing, as was suggest by >> > the >> > poster? >> >> Most of the increase in average lifespan has been due to the decrease >> in infant mortality, not due to adults living longer, but there's no >> reason to believe modern medicine hasn't contributed positively, a >> rare exception being its gross overuse of x-rays before the 1960s. > > Do you remember the x-ray machines in shoe stores? > > -- > I remember that they had something called a fluroscope at one time, wasn't that a massive dose of X-rays, too? I still think if we are living longer, we are living less well. Again, it's all about the money, boys. The medical industry and the drug industry is making a forturne off of prolonging death. Go look at the occupants of your average nursing home. They may be living longer, but most are miserable. Charles of Schaumburg
From: Johnny Hageyama on 23 Sep 2007 21:55 n5hsr wrote: > Not everyone is benefiting from modern healthcare. For some reason, my > family seems to fair less well with modern medicine than with what they had > prior to that. What did they have prior? > Watch for this to become a bigger trend. The medical and > drug industry is about money, not necessarily about longer life. The real medical and drug industries are about improving and lengthening life while chiropractors, naturopaths, and herbalists are about money rather than extending lifespans.
From: F.H. on 23 Sep 2007 22:21 witfal wrote: > On 2007-09-23 17:42:20 -0700, "F.H." <connectu2(a)verizon.net> said: >>> The medical and drug industry is about money, not necessarily about >>> longer life. >> >> You're chuck full of silly little idioms aren't you? How is it you >> speak with such confidence? > > And you're an idiot who can't even determine proper attributes on > usenet. The words above are not mine. > > Foolish troll. Heh, the troll label again. > I hate killfiles. I really do. But your oxygen thievery on this planet > tempts me to use one. Hate and intolerance are the main themes of your ramblings. Do me no favors, you seem ineducable anyway.
From: Johnny Hageyama on 23 Sep 2007 22:37 dbu` wrote: > > Most of the increase in average lifespan has been due to the decrease > > in infant mortality, not due to adults living longer, but there's no > > reason to believe modern medicine hasn't contributed positively, a > > rare exception being its gross overuse of x-rays before the 1960s. > > Do you remember the x-ray machines in shoe stores? My father knew something about radiation exposure, and when he learned that a shoe-ftting machine in a dept. store used x-rays, he lectured the employees and customers about the dangers, but I don't think anybody listened to him. He said a boy there had looked at his foot for several minutes through the fluoroscope. Many children in the 1950s were treated with x-rays even all kinds of minor ailments, including swollen tonsils, and close to 100% of those kids eventually developed thyroid cancer.
From: sharx35 on 24 Sep 2007 00:54
"F.H." <connectu2(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:MJDJi.802$9r4.555(a)trnddc04... > witfal wrote: >> On 2007-09-23 15:46:04 -0700, "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> said: >> >>> Not everyone is benefiting from modern healthcare. For some reason, my >>> family seems to fair less well with modern medicine than with what they had prior to that. Watch for >>> this to become a bigger trend. > > >> The medical and drug industry is about money, not necessarily about longer life. > > You're chuck full of silly little idioms aren't you? How is it you speak with such confidence? > Certainly the pharmaceuticals are questionable but how is what *is* the "medical industry" anyway? > Doctors? Or perhaps just those HMO's and hospital owners doing business the American way? > >> It's my firm belief that the increased lifespan we're witnessing is to the detriment of quality of >> life. > > Obvious in *some* cases. The that translate to you thinking its somehow costing *you* a few bucks? > >> Sure modern medicine can keep you alive, but at what cost? > > IMO, with the exception of clear cases of mental illness, once over a certain age the option of > checking out ought to be the individuals. Will your body to the corporate powers, throw a party, read > poetry, kiss everyone goodbye. > > And now.....a commercial message from Soylent red and Soylent yellow, high energy vegetable > concentrates, and new, delicious, Soylent green. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from > the oceans of the world. Soylent Green, in the movie, was NOT made from plankton. Google can even be YOUR friend...unfortunately, though, Google usually points out your errors far more than it confirms your statements. |