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From: Mike Hunter on 23 Sep 2007 16:26 What does that have to do with the fact the average life span has been increasing in the US for many years, not decreasing, as was suggest by the poster? mike "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:osidneDLZK37O2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:xtWdnegE4I2xEWjbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >> And your point? ;) >> >> mike >> >> >> "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:Zs2dnc5h2uLLz2jbnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >>> >>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >>> news:dJGdnVLvjpOQ0mjbnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>>> Any search will reveal people around the world are living longer than >>>> ever LOL >>>> >>>> mike >>> >>> Except in my family tree. . . My mom was 69 when she died. Her mom was >>> also 69. Grandmother was 84. Hmm. >>> >>> Charles of Schaumburg >>> >> >> > > > My point is that since the turn of the 20th century, my family has been > living LESS well overall. Modern medicine doesn't seem to do us much > good. The ones that died natural deaths prior to 1900 mostly lived longer > than the family members now. > > Charles of Schaumburg >
From: n5hsr on 23 Sep 2007 18:46 "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message news:xMCdnTSc69SUUWvbnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > What does that have to do with the fact the average life span has been > increasing in the US for many years, not decreasing, as was suggest by the > poster? > > mike > > "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:osidneDLZK37O2jbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >> >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:xtWdnegE4I2xEWjbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>> And your point? ;) >>> >>> mike >>> >>> >>> "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:Zs2dnc5h2uLLz2jbnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d(a)comcast.com... >>>> >>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message >>>> news:dJGdnVLvjpOQ0mjbnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d(a)ptd.net... >>>>> Any search will reveal people around the world are living longer than >>>>> ever LOL >>>>> >>>>> mike >>>> >>>> Except in my family tree. . . My mom was 69 when she died. Her mom was >>>> also 69. Grandmother was 84. Hmm. >>>> >>>> Charles of Schaumburg >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> My point is that since the turn of the 20th century, my family has been >> living LESS well overall. Modern medicine doesn't seem to do us much >> good. The ones that died natural deaths prior to 1900 mostly lived longer >> than the family members now. >> >> Charles of Schaumburg >> > > Dear Mike, Not everyone is benefiting from modern healthcare. For some reason, my family seems to fair less well with modern medicine than with what they had prior to that. Watch for this to become a bigger trend. The medical and drug industry is about money, not necessarily about longer life. Charles of Schaumburg.
From: n5hsr on 23 Sep 2007 19:49 "witfal" <nospam(a)all4.me> wrote in message news:fd6s5s$573$1(a)news.albasani.net... > On 2007-09-23 15:46:04 -0700, "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> said: > >> Not everyone is benefiting from modern healthcare. For some reason, my >> family seems to fair less well with modern medicine than with what they >> had >> prior to that. Watch for this to become a bigger trend. The medical and >> drug industry is about money, not necessarily about longer life. > > It's my firm belief that the increased lifespan we're witnessing is to the > detriment of quality of life. Sure modern medicine can keep you alive, > but at what cost? > > My mother-in-law is 86, and on over a dozen prescription meds. There's no > possible way that these meds don't interact with each other, and > differently between individuals for genetic reasons. Sure she's alive at > 86, but the woman is in constant discomfort and subjected to a myriad of > side-effects. > > You're alive, but miserable. Band-aids instead of prevention via > lifestyle changes possible only when you're young enough for them to > matter. > Agreed. My grandmother died at 69. She had a stroke and was dead the same day. My mom had a stroke at 69 and they kept her alive 3 months, until all hope of her getting better was done, but she was miserable and on a respirator for those three months until her internal organs had just had enough and shut down on their own. Charles of Schaumburg
From: Johnny Hageyama on 23 Sep 2007 20:31 Mike Hunter wrote: > > My point is that since the turn of the 20th century, my family has been > > living LESS well overall. Modern medicine doesn't seem to do us much > > good. The ones that died natural deaths prior to 1900 mostly lived longer > > than the family members now. > > > > Charles of Schaumburg > > > What does that have to do with the fact the average life span has been > increasing in the US for many years, not decreasing, as was suggest by the > poster? Most of the increase in average lifespan has been due to the decrease in infant mortality, not due to adults living longer, but there's no reason to believe modern medicine hasn't contributed positively, a rare exception being its gross overuse of x-rays before the 1960s.
From: F.H. on 23 Sep 2007 20:42
witfal wrote: > On 2007-09-23 15:46:04 -0700, "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> said: > >> Not everyone is benefiting from modern healthcare. For some reason, my >> family seems to fair less well with modern medicine than with what >> they had prior to that. Watch for this to become a bigger trend. > The medical and drug industry is about money, not necessarily about > longer life. You're chuck full of silly little idioms aren't you? How is it you speak with such confidence? Certainly the pharmaceuticals are questionable but how is what *is* the "medical industry" anyway? Doctors? Or perhaps just those HMO's and hospital owners doing business the American way? > It's my firm belief that the increased lifespan we're witnessing is to > the detriment of quality of life. Obvious in *some* cases. The that translate to you thinking its somehow costing *you* a few bucks? > Sure modern medicine can keep you alive, but at what cost? IMO, with the exception of clear cases of mental illness, once over a certain age the option of checking out ought to be the individuals. Will your body to the corporate powers, throw a party, read poetry, kiss everyone goodbye. And now.....a commercial message from Soylent red and Soylent yellow, high energy vegetable concentrates, and new, delicious, Soylent green. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world. |