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From: CEG on 2 Oct 2009 06:41
On Oct 2, 2:04 am, Adam <adam.vazq...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wonder if they even tried to turn off the ignition at all. That is
> > all that is needed to stop a runaway car.
>
> Your age is showing. Some of the cars with those RFID chips inside the
> keys you cant do that. At least with those cars with the Press to
> Start button can kill the motor, but you have to read the manual
> first. Some you have to hold the start button , some you have to press
> twice. confusing aint it?

Are they making cars that difficult where you actually have to read
the manual to use it?? It seems to me they need to make it easier to
shut a vehicle down.

>
> Turning off the ignition by turning the ignition key  is not
> necessarily the best way to stop a runaway. Most people twist the key
> striaght to locking the steering column, making a bad situation worse.
>


If the car is in gear you can't turn the key to the lock position
From: clare on 2 Oct 2009 11:24
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:04:09 -0700 (PDT), Adam <adam.vazquez(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>> I wonder if they even tried to turn off the ignition at all. That is
>> all that is needed to stop a runaway car.
>
>Your age is showing. Some of the cars with those RFID chips inside the
>keys you cant do that. At least with those cars with the Press to
>Start button can kill the motor, but you have to read the manual
>first. Some you have to hold the start button , some you have to press
>twice. confusing aint it?
>
>Turning off the ignition by turning the ignition key is not
>necessarily the best way to stop a runaway. Most people twist the key
>striaght to locking the steering column, making a bad situation worse.
>
>The driver of that MVA was not the owner of the car, making the
>situation worse, driving a unfamiliar car. Best practice with such an
>auto is to throw it into neutral and let the rev limiter engage when
>the engine red-lines.

Won't even get close to redline. It will bounce around at 3500RPM in
neutral.
From: Mike Hunter on 2 Oct 2009 12:13
It is BS as well! There is not a car made, that has properly functioning
brakes, that will NOT stop if the throttle is fully engaged, NONE. If you
doubt that, try it whit YOUR vehicle.



"john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:856b26a6-caca-4e44-959b-7f014e36a29c(a)r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
can't stop the car? That's scary!

"In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car�s tires were on fire when it
crashed � possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."

http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyota-recalls-3.8-million-vehicles--Mats-can-cause-stuck-accelerators


From: Jeff Strickland on 2 Oct 2009 21:46

"Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc(a)gbr.online.com> wrote in message
news:076cc5hmd9h982i9caad846od7i8iijdti(a)4ax.com...
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> found these unused words:
>
>>
>>"john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:856b26a6-caca-4e44-959b-7f014e36a29c(a)r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
>>can't stop the car? That's scary!
>>
>>"In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
>>120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car�s tires were on fire when it
>>crashed � possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."
>>
>>http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyota-recalls-3.8-million-vehicles--Mats-can-cause-stuck-accelerators
>>
>>
>><JS>
>>I'm thinking the driver must have rode the brakes far longer than was
>>needed to stop the car. I have to wonder how ling it took him to figure
>>out
>>that the gas pedal was stuck ...
>
>
> I wonder why none of the CAFA idiots had the brains to either shift out of
> gear [to hell with a blown engine] or just turn OFF the ignition!
>
> Shows the 'quality' of current driver education in CAFA Land ... !
>


CAFA?

The driver was a CHP officer, one likes to think he would have been trained
on stopping a car in an emergency.







From: Jeff Strickland on 4 Oct 2009 16:48

"Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc(a)gbr.online.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> found these unused words:
>
>>
>>"Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc(a)gbr.online.com> wrote in message
>>news:076cc5hmd9h982i9caad846od7i8iijdti(a)4ax.com...
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> found these unused words:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:856b26a6-caca-4e44-959b-7f014e36a29c(a)r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>So slamming on the brakes enough to cause tires to catch fire still
>>>>can't stop the car? That's scary!
>>>>
>>>>"In a 911 call, one of the passengers said the Lexus was speeding at
>>>>120 m.p.h., and witnesses said the car�s tires were on fire when it
>>>>crashed � possibly from the driver slamming on the brakes."
>>>>
>>>>http://www.freep.com/article/20090930/BUSINESS01/309300004/1315/Toyota-recalls-3.8-million-vehicles--Mats-can-cause-stuck-accelerators
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><JS>
>>>>I'm thinking the driver must have rode the brakes far longer than was
>>>>needed to stop the car. I have to wonder how ling it took him to figure
>>>>out
>>>>that the gas pedal was stuck ...
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder why none of the CAFA idiots had the brains to either shift out
>>> of
>>> gear [to hell with a blown engine] or just turn OFF the ignition!
>>>
>>> Shows the 'quality' of current driver education in CAFA Land ... !
>>>
>>
>>
>>CAFA?
>>
>>The driver was a CHP officer, one likes to think he would have been
>>trained
>>on stopping a car in an emergency.
>>
> Yeah one would LIKE to think, but then one would also LIKE to think they
> are
> both civil and serving oriented.
>
> Ca. F. A.
> ... or do I need to Bartosh further?
>


Looks like you're a Valley Girl, but I don't do valley speak.






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