From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Nov 2009 19:05 The government estimates 40 M Americans without healthcare. They include 12M illegal aliens, who aren't really Americans, are they? That leaves 28 M Americans w/o healthcare. The US government already has MedicAid. Why didn't they just put them on MedicAid? Why? Any good answers?
From: Jeff Strickland on 11 Nov 2009 21:22 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.12.00.05.06.172949(a)e86.GTS... > The government estimates 40 M Americans without healthcare. > They include 12M illegal aliens, who aren't really Americans, are they? > > That leaves 28 M Americans w/o healthcare. > > The US government already has MedicAid. Why didn't they just put them on > MedicAid? > > Why? Any good answers? > > After you take out the illegals, you have, what?, 28 million. Of those, 12 million or so are under 29 and invincible so they ELECT to not have health coverage. Where are we now, 16 million ... Of those, there are 5 or 6 million that self-insure -- they have the money to set aside and earn interest if they don't get sick and they can easily pay for whatever health problems they might face. That brings us down to 10 million. With a 400 million population, that leaves about 2% without health coverage. I'm not convinced that this is a matter worth spending more than a dime on, and we've already spent far too much time.
From: ron on 11 Nov 2009 21:24 Wouldn't it have made more sense to expand the income limits for medicaid possibly do some co-pays with the higher incomes and maybe look at changing the ages/disability rules a bit for medicare to utilize the existing infrastructure/forms/fees to get it started instead of tearing up the 85% or so that are insured? Then start solving the other perceived problems? if this wetdream passes, its going to be years to get anyone covered, IMHO. Ron
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Nov 2009 20:00 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:52:42 -0600, Fatter Than Ever Moe wrote: > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> The government estimates 40 M Americans without healthcare. They include >> 12M illegal aliens, who aren't really Americans, are they? >> >> That leaves 28 M Americans w/o healthcare. >> >> The US government already has MedicAid. Why didn't they just put them on >> MedicAid? >> >> Why? Any good answers? >> >> >> > Sounds good to me, all it takes is money. We can print that stuff all > day and night. MedicAid was instituted by LBJ and the Great Society BS. It is an existing Government Option healthcare plan. Why wasn't that good enough for 2% of America?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Nov 2009 20:01 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:14 -0800, ron wrote: > > Wouldn't it have made more sense to expand the income limits for medicaid > possibly do some co-pays with the higher incomes and maybe Ron, Ron, Ron. That is a COMMON SENSE approach! These morons don't HAVE ANY!!!!
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