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From: Tom Cole on 8 Jul 2010 23:44
At the ETH in Zurich, Switzerland (Eidgen�ssische Technische
Hochschule)
one of the professors got a new car, with smartkey, for keyless entry.
He offered the car for the test, if the system is secure.

It is not, not at all, definitely not.
Read the scientific investigation report here:

Relay attacks on passive keyless entry and start systems in modern
cars.
http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/332.pdf
From: Peter Granzeau on 9 Jul 2010 22:36
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:44:12 +1200, Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM(a)yahoo.co.nz>
wrote:

>At the ETH in Zurich, Switzerland (Eidgen�ssische Technische
>Hochschule)
>one of the professors got a new car, with smartkey, for keyless entry.
>He offered the car for the test, if the system is secure.
>
>It is not, not at all, definitely not.
>Read the scientific investigation report here:
>
>Relay attacks on passive keyless entry and start systems in modern
>cars.
>http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/332.pdf

Regular keys aren't secure, either. Without any electronics, without a
coded key, or any other way; if auto theft is required, the crooks can
steal it.
From: TKM on 12 Jul 2010 10:45

"Peter Granzeau" <pgranzeau(a)cox.net> wrote in message
news:rtmf365e35dsr4v318161uppdsmjmrqbo1(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:44:12 +1200, Tom Cole <tacoleNOSPAM(a)yahoo.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>>At the ETH in Zurich, Switzerland (Eidgen�ssische Technische
>>Hochschule)
>>one of the professors got a new car, with smartkey, for keyless entry.
>>He offered the car for the test, if the system is secure.
>>
>>It is not, not at all, definitely not.
>>Read the scientific investigation report here:
>>
>>Relay attacks on passive keyless entry and start systems in modern
>>cars.
>>http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/332.pdf

Right, but the reported improvements seem simpe enough to implement.

My father returned to his car once to find it up on concrete blocks with the
wheels, battery and some engine parts gone, but the inside of the car and
the trunk were still locked and intact. My solution is to drive a beater
with rusty lug nuts in certain areas of town and the Prius everywhere else.

What I like about the new security technology, however, is the ability to
track and locate a car -- sometimes during the theft. Seems like that would
deter a few of the hackers and professionals.

TKM



> Regular keys aren't secure, either. Without any electronics, without a
> coded key, or any other way; if auto theft is required, the crooks can
> steal it.


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