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From: SMS on 26 Oct 2008 15:02
I was cleaning my garage and I found a water pump for a 1985 FJ60 which
I no longer own. It's from Spector Off-Road (not sure if it's new or
rebuilt). There's a gasket in the box too.

Free to anyone that wants it, just pay me the shipping.
From: Bruce L. Bergman on 26 Oct 2008 16:58
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:02:25 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com>
wrote:

>I was cleaning my garage and I found a water pump for a 1985 FJ60 which
>I no longer own. It's from Spector Off-Road (not sure if it's new or
>rebuilt). There's a gasket in the box too.
>
>Free to anyone that wants it, just pay me the shipping.

Depends on where you are, no sense paying a lot for freight - I'm in
Woodland Hills, and I go up to Chatsworth and say hello to Marv and
Kay in person on those rare occasions when I break something...

It's probably the same for a FJ60 and FJ62, you have a 2F Motor and
I've got a 3F-E - but they're both F's. I'd want to check first, no
sense it sitting in my garage forever.

--<< Bruce >>--

From: SMS on 28 Oct 2008 12:29
Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:02:25 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was cleaning my garage and I found a water pump for a 1985 FJ60 which
>> I no longer own. It's from Spector Off-Road (not sure if it's new or
>> rebuilt). There's a gasket in the box too.
>>
>> Free to anyone that wants it, just pay me the shipping.
>
> Depends on where you are, no sense paying a lot for freight - I'm in
> Woodland Hills, and I go up to Chatsworth and say hello to Marv and
> Kay in person on those rare occasions when I break something...

I'm in Northern California. I thought that the 2F and 3F were very
different engines.
From: Bruce L. Bergman on 28 Oct 2008 23:50
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:29:06 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com>
wrote:
>Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:02:25 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com>
>> wrote:

>>> I was cleaning my garage and I found a water pump for a 1985 FJ60 which
>>> I no longer own. It's from Spector Off-Road (not sure if it's new or
>>> rebuilt). There's a gasket in the box too.
>>>
>>> Free to anyone that wants it, just pay me the shipping.
>>
>> Depends on where you are, no sense paying a lot for freight - I'm in
>> Woodland Hills, and I go up to Chatsworth and say hello to Marv and
>> Kay in person on those rare occasions when I break something...
>
>I'm in Northern California. I thought that the 2F and 3F were very
>different engines.

The top ends are different because they had to redesign the intake
manifold and head for the fuel injectors and mounting the fuel rail.
And they had to start mounting extra sensors and senders for the
computer, so there are new and more holes. But the blocks look quite
similar, and I bet they didn't change much at all except for knocking
the bore down from 4.2L to 4.0L.

It's still the old General Motors "Blue Flame Six" / "Stovebolt Six"
at heart, side of block lifter galleries and all. If you are going to
buy the existing design and tooling for an internal combustion engine
like Toyota did, you buy one that is proven utterly and beyond a doubt
bulletproof - and then keep making it better...

And if you want another good old design that could be revived,
there's the old Chrysler Slant Six. Not quite in the league of the
Stovebolt Six, but they were hard to kill too.

--<< Bruce >>--

From: SMS on 30 Oct 2008 02:21
Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

> It's still the old General Motors "Blue Flame Six" / "Stovebolt Six"
> at heart, side of block lifter galleries and all. If you are going to
> buy the existing design and tooling for an internal combustion engine
> like Toyota did, you buy one that is proven utterly and beyond a doubt
> bulletproof - and then keep making it better...

I went through three exhaust manifold gaskets on that 2F engine. When I
sold it in 2001, the third one had blown. They were all replaced by Land
Cruiser mechanics, not by me. When I smogged it when I sold it, the smog
technician told me that this type of leak was not on the list of
problems that would cause an automatic failure, and that if it hadn't
been leaking then I wouldn't have passed. I was not impressed with the
reliability of the 2F engine. Maybe the block is fine, but not the
pieces around it. Also, the 2F engine wasn't powerful enough for such a
heavy vehicle.

I think the worst thing about the 1985 FJ60 was that it didn't come with
an LSD or locker, nor was one available from Toyota. I put in an
after-market LSD after getting stuck one too many times.
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