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From: MLD on 2 Mar 2010 15:56
Along with my recall notice for the accelerator pedal fix was another notice
for the replacement of the VVT-i (Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence)
oil hose. At least it's for certain 2008 Avalon's equipped with the V6
(2GR-FE) engine.

"The rubber portion of the oil supply hose for the VVT-i actuator may
degrade over time. This condition may cause oil to leak from the VVT-i hose
producing abnormal engine noise and the oil pressure light to illuminate.

This is a limited service campaign and free replacement of the hose will be
officered until Mar 31st.

This is new to me--anyone else hear about it?
MLD

From: hls on 2 Mar 2010 17:54

"MLD" <MLD(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:hmju2h$18g$1(a)news.eternal-
>
> This is new to me--anyone else hear about it?
> MLD
AFAIK, it just came out today. I wonder who made those hoses.

And, are we beginning to see a trend here?? Some of these troublesome
parts - the GM steering motors, GM lower manifolds, the Toyota pedals, Ford
switches, and so on - may point to another serious area of quality>>>
the OEM parts suppliers??

From: C. E. White on 3 Mar 2010 21:17

"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
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>
> "MLD" <MLD(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:hmju2h$18g$1(a)news.eternal-
>>
>> This is new to me--anyone else hear about it?
>> MLD
> AFAIK, it just came out today. I wonder who made those hoses.
>
> And, are we beginning to see a trend here?? Some of these troublesome
> parts - the GM steering motors, GM lower manifolds, the Toyota pedals,
> Ford switches, and so on - may point to another serious area of quality>>>
> the OEM parts suppliers??

In the end I buy cars from Toyota, Ford, GM, etc.. It is their job to make
sure the parts they put into the cars I buy are good parts.

Unfortunately I see this trend with lots of companies. Instead of doing
proper incoming inspection, companies depend on written quality reports from
the suppliers. It is no longer good enough to put items out for bid and then
buy parts from the supplier with the best combination of quality and price.
Now companies buy from the lowest bidder and then constantly brow beat them
into providing the parts at even lower prices. Companies are increasingly
turning the design responsibility over to the vendors and the actual
physically testing is minimized in favor of vendor reports and virtual
testing. Test organization in companies have been cut as "non-productive"
cost centers.

I've seen even worse...Company farming out the design and production of a
product to another company that it turns farms the job over to a third
Chinese or Indian supplier.

In my opinion many big companies are trying to figure out how to get out of
building things, they just want to sell things that somebody else makes for
them.

Do you remember the article from last year where Toyota bragged about how
they were going to cut cost by forcing their suppliers to reduce what the
supplier were charging for the parts. They claimed that this wasn't going to
effect quality. Sure. I wonder how much CTS had to cut the cost of pedal
assemblies over the last five years to keep from losing the Toyota business?

Ed


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