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From: Ray O on 11 Oct 2009 21:50 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.10.11.23.30.54.466484(a)e86.GTS... > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:11:15 -0500, Ray O wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2009.10.11.03.34.02.715692(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:57:18 -0500, Ray O wrote: >>> >>>>> Interesting thing: I beld the brakes the other day, and juice was >>>>> flowing out, but when I did the pass side caliper the pressure was >>>>> building and building and all of a sudden there was kind of a SLURP! >>>>> and the juice started filling the cup. I looked and didn't see >>>>> anything, but considering I just about completely refilled the cup 3 >>>>> times the other day, it sure was dirty. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> When the pressure builds that way and then just pops loose, the >>>> interior lining of the brake hose could be deteriorated. A loose flap >>>> from the lining could act as an obstruction, resulting in a spongy feel >>>> with poor braking performance. On the wheel in question, if applying >>>> the brakes doesn't move the caliper piston and you know the piston and >>>> sliders are free, then the hose is suspect. >>> >>> Hmmmm....I think I'll have another look at this... >>> >>> This is NOT good news... >>> >>> >> Hoses are cheaper than calipers - the hose in question would be the >> flexible one between the body and caliper or wheel cylinder, not the >> metal >> brake line from the master cylinder to the flex hose. You will probably >> need a flare nut wrench to break the connections free. IIRC, you will >> need a 10 mm wrench on a Toyota, probably the same on a Subie. > > I took a look at the setup when I did the other side this morning. Yeah, > they join at the inner fender. Doesn't look too tough. I sprayed it with > GM Heat Riser Lubricant (IMHO, much better then Blaster...) and the hose > is $22 from AZ, but I'll bet it's cheaper from a Suby dealer. Most of the > parts I've bought for this have been! (Go figure!) > GM Heat Riser Lubricant is still available? One of the GM service department techs turned me on to the stuff, and I always used to keep a couple of cans handy -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: dsi1 on 11 Oct 2009 22:00 Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:24:36 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: > >> But it's his car, so he knows how it should feel. > > Actually, it's only been mine for about 2 years, and winter only. What I > DO remember is, when I park that car and then take my '89 Mazda for a > spin, I almost put myself through the windshield when I hit the brakes the > first time! > The 84 GL station wagon I used to have had less than great brakes. Don't expect too much. When you screw in the pistons, make sure you orient the slot on the piston in the same direction that it was in. A pin in the pad fits in that slot - it keeps the piston from rotating. The caliper design is pretty much a copy of a early 70's Fiat caliper design. How odd!
From: nm5k on 11 Oct 2009 22:14 On Oct 10, 6:49 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > I'm going to try, very gingerly, to loosen the stuck bleeder tomorrow. I usually let em soak with rust buster for as long as possible. Then carefully whack it with a hammer, wrench, etc on the head of it to help break the rust loose from the threads. Pop it 2-3 times if need be. They will usually come out after that.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Oct 2009 21:25 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:50:17 -0500, Ray O wrote: > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.10.11.23.30.54.466484(a)e86.GTS... >> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:11:15 -0500, Ray O wrote: >> >> >>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2009.10.11.03.34.02.715692(a)e86.GTS... >>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:57:18 -0500, Ray O wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Interesting thing: I beld the brakes the other day, and juice was >>>>>> flowing out, but when I did the pass side caliper the pressure was >>>>>> building and building and all of a sudden there was kind of a SLURP! >>>>>> and the juice started filling the cup. I looked and didn't see >>>>>> anything, but considering I just about completely refilled the cup 3 >>>>>> times the other day, it sure was dirty. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> When the pressure builds that way and then just pops loose, the >>>>> interior lining of the brake hose could be deteriorated. A loose >>>>> flap from the lining could act as an obstruction, resulting in a >>>>> spongy feel with poor braking performance. On the wheel in question, >>>>> if applying the brakes doesn't move the caliper piston and you know >>>>> the piston and sliders are free, then the hose is suspect. >>>> >>>> Hmmmm....I think I'll have another look at this... >>>> >>>> This is NOT good news... >>>> >>>> >>> Hoses are cheaper than calipers - the hose in question would be the >>> flexible one between the body and caliper or wheel cylinder, not the >>> metal >>> brake line from the master cylinder to the flex hose. You will >>> probably need a flare nut wrench to break the connections free. IIRC, >>> you will need a 10 mm wrench on a Toyota, probably the same on a Subie. >> >> I took a look at the setup when I did the other side this morning. Yeah, >> they join at the inner fender. Doesn't look too tough. I sprayed it with >> GM Heat Riser Lubricant (IMHO, much better then Blaster...) and the hose >> is $22 from AZ, but I'll bet it's cheaper from a Suby dealer. Most of >> the parts I've bought for this have been! (Go figure!) >> >> > GM Heat Riser Lubricant is still available? One of the GM service > department techs turned me on to the stuff, and I always used to keep a > couple of cans handy Yup! Rust Penetrant and Heat Riser Lube. ~$9-12 a can, depending if you get it from Chevy or Buick.
From: Ray O on 11 Oct 2009 22:23
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.10.12.01.25.03.131892(a)e86.GTS... > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:50:17 -0500, Ray O wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2009.10.11.23.30.54.466484(a)e86.GTS... >>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:11:15 -0500, Ray O wrote: >>> >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:pan.2009.10.11.03.34.02.715692(a)e86.GTS... >>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:57:18 -0500, Ray O wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting thing: I beld the brakes the other day, and juice was >>>>>>> flowing out, but when I did the pass side caliper the pressure was >>>>>>> building and building and all of a sudden there was kind of a SLURP! >>>>>>> and the juice started filling the cup. I looked and didn't see >>>>>>> anything, but considering I just about completely refilled the cup 3 >>>>>>> times the other day, it sure was dirty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> When the pressure builds that way and then just pops loose, the >>>>>> interior lining of the brake hose could be deteriorated. A loose >>>>>> flap from the lining could act as an obstruction, resulting in a >>>>>> spongy feel with poor braking performance. On the wheel in question, >>>>>> if applying the brakes doesn't move the caliper piston and you know >>>>>> the piston and sliders are free, then the hose is suspect. >>>>> >>>>> Hmmmm....I think I'll have another look at this... >>>>> >>>>> This is NOT good news... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hoses are cheaper than calipers - the hose in question would be the >>>> flexible one between the body and caliper or wheel cylinder, not the >>>> metal >>>> brake line from the master cylinder to the flex hose. You will >>>> probably need a flare nut wrench to break the connections free. IIRC, >>>> you will need a 10 mm wrench on a Toyota, probably the same on a Subie. >>> >>> I took a look at the setup when I did the other side this morning. Yeah, >>> they join at the inner fender. Doesn't look too tough. I sprayed it with >>> GM Heat Riser Lubricant (IMHO, much better then Blaster...) and the hose >>> is $22 from AZ, but I'll bet it's cheaper from a Suby dealer. Most of >>> the parts I've bought for this have been! (Go figure!) >>> >>> >> GM Heat Riser Lubricant is still available? One of the GM service >> department techs turned me on to the stuff, and I always used to keep a >> couple of cans handy > > Yup! Rust Penetrant and Heat Riser Lube. ~$9-12 a can, depending if you > get it from Chevy or Buick. > > Which is cheaper - Chevy or Buick? -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |