From: C. E. White on

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I honestly don't care about commercials, although the "magic fridge"
> beer commercial is excellent. Commercials are fictional
> representations of whatever.

Budweiser has the best commercials - particularly Bud Light
Commercials. If Bud had commercials like Toyota Tundra commercials,
the guys would be able to fly after they took a sip of beer....

Ed


From: Jeff on

<rm(a)biteme.org> wrote in message
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> Jeff <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> #3) PC: A type of personal computer, first made by IBM, with an
>> architecture
>> based on the 8086 and later, related processors, that run MS-DOS and
>> later
>> Windows. That includes most Dells, Gateways, HPs, Compaqs, but excludes
>> non-Intel Apples.
>
> The IBM PC never ran an 8086, doofus. The first PC ran on an 8088,
> while everybody else used the older, but more powerful, 8086.

Thanks for pointing out my error.

I know. The 8088 was based on 8086, but had a different (8-bit external
bus).

I made a mistake.

There is no need to call me names.

>> The point is that IBM designed the original architecture that
>> became the mainstay of home and business desktop computing
>
> No, they didn't. The 8088 was descended from the 8080 which ran
> the CP/M OS that MS(PC)DOS copied.

The MS-DOS is software.

The architecture I am talking about is hardware, like the 8086 chip and the
motherboard.

True, the chip descended from the 8080, but, as far as I know, the
architecture of the computer, like the chips and bus were all new and made
by IBM engineers, except for the 8088.

> Learn your history.
>
> cordially, as always,

Cordially my butt.

Rudely is more like it.

You don't need to act like you do.

Jeff
> rm

From: Jeff on

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> <rm(a)biteme.org> wrote in message
> news:osWHh.183269$_X1.124190(a)fe05.news.easynews.com...
>> Jeff <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> #3) PC: A type of personal computer, first made by IBM, with an
>>> architecture
>>> based on the 8086 and later, related processors, that run MS-DOS and
>>> later
>>> Windows. That includes most Dells, Gateways, HPs, Compaqs, but excludes
>>> non-Intel Apples.
>>
>> The IBM PC never ran an 8086, doofus. The first PC ran on an 8088,
>> while everybody else used the older, but more powerful, 8086.
>>
>>> The point is that IBM designed the original architecture that
>>> became the mainstay of home and business desktop computing
>>
>> No, they didn't. The 8088 was descended from the 8080 which ran
>> the CP/M OS that MS(PC)DOS copied.
>>
>> Learn your history.
>>
>> cordially, as always,
>>
>> rm
>
>
> Wow. You guys have so much stuff memorized.

When you used some of the original equipment (I have used regularly
computers based on the 6502, 8088, 186, 286, 386 (Solaris Unix), 386sx, 486,
Pentium I, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IIIM, Pentium IV, Power PC (Mac
OS X) and AMD Turan all running some flavor of windows or MS DOS (except as
noted)). All I have to remember. It is not like I have to go and look this
up, which is easy to do with Wikipedia.

Jeff

From: B A R R Y on
C. E. White wrote:
>If Bud had commercials like Toyota Tundra commercials,
> the guys would be able to fly after they took a sip of beer....


I _can_ fly after one sip of beer! <G>
From: mack on

"C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hRWHh.4403$B25.1601(a)news01.roc.ny...
>
>> I honestly don't care about commercials, although the "magic fridge" beer
>> commercial is excellent. Commercials are fictional representations of
>> whatever.
>
> Budweiser has the best commercials - particularly Bud Light Commercials.
> If Bud had commercials like Toyota Tundra commercials, the guys would be
> able to fly after they took a sip of beer....
>
> Ed
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If I ran an ad agency, I'd be proud that people like Ed and Joe spend so
much time and thought analyzing commercials. Commercials, like most
facets of modern life, are so much BS, and if one believes that Toyotas can
stop on a dime, Lexuses can outrun falling cars, Dodge trucks have so much
power that it's hazardous to jump start an old GM car with one, and
Mitsubishis can go through city streets at a speed greater than the land
speed record, they must also believe in Copperfield's magic and Paris
Hilton's intellect.


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