From: Jeff on

"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff wrote:
>
>> I also pointed out that the Corolla is the best selling car (and
>> actually, it is the best selling vehicle of all time, surpassing even the
>> F150 series).
>
> The Camry is the best selling car in the U.S. for the past four years,
> though worldwide the Corolla is the best selling car. Technically the VW
> Beetle is the best selling car ever, if you don't allow for significant
> body changes over the life of the car.

Correct. And, some people who were born after the Beetle came out are now
getting Social Security.

The other thing about the Corolla is that the sales may include some
Tercels.

Surprisingly, the oldest car that has the same basic design that is still in
production today is the Peugeot 504. It is produced in Kenya and on other
African country. But it has only been in production for about 40 years,
compared to about 65 for the VW.

Jeff


>> However, the number of sales don't show that GM is better than Ford, any
>> more than it shows that Toyota is better than Ford.
>
> "Better" is so subjective. Is this based on profitability, most units
> sold, reliability, safety, or what?

From: C. E. White on

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> Jeff <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented.
>
> Actually most people recognize the Apple II as the first "PC." IBM
> simply sold the first mass marketed computer using the 8088 chip.

Depends on what you mean by "PC." IBM actually had small computers
that were for all practical purposes "PCs" before the Apple II, but
they didn't mass market them. Look for information on the IBM
5100.....It was available at least two years before the Apple II.

Ed


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
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>
> IBM doesn't call them main frames anymore. They are Series Z Servers these
> days.
>
>> Actually, it still sells mainframes and servicers (and makes money at
>> it), but its main product is consulting services to other businesses.
>> Especially software and services related to e-commerce.
>
> And it is barely profitable despite all the positive spin reported by the
> rpess. Get into the numebrs sometime. And IBM is moving as much of the
> actual "work": as they can to India and China.


Who is their biggest competitor in the mainframe category these days?


From: Jeff on

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> IBM doesn't call them main frames anymore. They are Series Z Servers
>> these days.
>>
>>> Actually, it still sells mainframes and servicers (and makes money at
>>> it), but its main product is consulting services to other businesses.
>>> Especially software and services related to e-commerce.
>>
>> And it is barely profitable despite all the positive spin reported by the
>> rpess. Get into the numebrs sometime. And IBM is moving as much of the
>> actual "work": as they can to India and China.
>
>
> Who is their biggest competitor in the mainframe category these days?

I don't think they have one. DEC doesn't make Vaxes any more.

The other US mainframe companies don't make them anymore, either.

For the vast majority of applications, mainframes have been replaced by
servers and PCs. Big names in servers include Sun and HP. Linux and Solaris
are the biggest OSes, I think. Server farms, like those used by Google and
Yahoo also do what mainframes used to do.

But IBM still sells a few thousand mainframes a year.

Jeff

From: SMS on
Jeff wrote:

> Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented.

Huh? It invented the IBM PC. The personal computer preceded it by 5-10
years, depending on your definition of personal computer.

Probably the Apple II and the Commodore PET, April 1977 were the first
machines that could be considered personal computers.
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