From: Scott in Florida on
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:47:41 -0600, "dh" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote:

>My wife agrees with you. She guarantees it will be a cold day in Hell
>before another Ford graces our driveway.
>


Graces?

You mean oil spots?

--

Scott in Florida



From: Scott in Florida on
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:11:37 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

>I do think Ford, GM and Chrysler, if it gets free of Diamler, have the
>possibility of being good, solid companies once again. However, they have to
>change their ways

That will never happen.

When bean counters rule the roost the company can't succeed in today's
market.

The big three seem to use computers to design pieces to just last the
warranty period.

It seems (at least to me) that Toyota designs parts to last a lot
longer than the warranty period....and when they have a problem...they
fix it.

Toyota stays in my drive way....

--

Scott in Florida



From: n5hsr on
"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:6m00v2dnb972k37adaufkjr8cmpds51j71(a)4ax.com...
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:11:37 GMT, "Jeff" <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>I do think Ford, GM and Chrysler, if it gets free of Diamler, have the
>>possibility of being good, solid companies once again. However, they have
>>to
>>change their ways
>
> That will never happen.
>
> When bean counters rule the roost the company can't succeed in today's
> market.
>
> The big three seem to use computers to design pieces to just last the
> warranty period.
>
> It seems (at least to me) that Toyota designs parts to last a lot
> longer than the warranty period....and when they have a problem...they
> fix it.
>
> Toyota stays in my drive way....
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>
>
>

I agree. The last General Maintenance product I owned started needing
serious work by 50,000 miles. For a Toyota, that's not even broken in good
yet. I consider an entire front brake/rotor replacement and rear brake
replacement major work. Until 200,000 miles, I had the original rear brakes
on the 93, but that was because mechanics kept misadjusting the rear brakes
to where the handbrake wouldn't stop anything.

Charles of Schaumburg


From: Wickeddoll´┐Ż on

"Scott in Florida" <
, "Jeff" <:
>
>>I do think Ford, GM and Chrysler, if it gets free of Diamler, have the
>>possibility of being good, solid companies once again. However, they have
>>to
>>change their ways
>
> That will never happen.
>
> When bean counters rule the roost the company can't succeed in today's
> market.
>
> The big three seem to use computers to design pieces to just last the
> warranty period.
>
> It seems (at least to me) that Toyota designs parts to last a lot
> longer than the warranty period....and when they have a problem...they
> fix it.
>
> Toyota stays in my drive way....
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida

Until we see evidence to the contrary, Toyotas will stay in ours, too.

Natalie


From: Jeff on

<rm(a)biteme.org> wrote in message
news:hhOHh.5543$8x2.3850(a)fe08.news.easynews.com...
> Jeff <news(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented.
>
> Actually most people recognize the Apple II as the first "PC." IBM
> simply sold the first mass marketed computer using the 8088 chip.

I know. In fact, If go into my basement and get out the Apple II, I bet it
would still work.

Actually, there were computers before the Apple II. The Apple I, for
instance. And Altair 8800.

The Apple II archetecture died out with the Apple III and Apple IIe or Apple
IIc. The Mac Line started with the Lisa.

However, the IBM PC architecture still lives on, with virtually all PCs now
(even the Mac Line) using successors the the original achitecture developed
by IBM while I was still in high school.

So I am right in saying IBM invented the PC, as in the 8086 architecture
that was succeeded by AT, 386, 486. Pentium, and successor architectures.

Jeff

> cordially, as always,
>
> rm

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