From: Mike Hunter on
Try telling that to the corporate fleet owners who know better, as our
service records proved. They keep their vehicles for five year or more,
and they don't buy many Toyotas. The ONLY fleets that by Toyotas are rental
fleets, that sell them off in a year or less LOL


mike


"n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message
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>
>> The big three seem to use computers to design pieces to just last the
>> warranty period.
>>
>> It seems (at least to me) that Toyota designs parts to last a lot
>> longer than the warranty period....and when they have a problem...they
>> fix it.
>>
>> Toyota stays in my drive way....
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>>
>>
>>
>
> I agree. The last General Maintenance product I owned started needing
> serious work by 50,000 miles. For a Toyota, that's not even broken in
> good yet. I consider an entire front brake/rotor replacement and rear
> brake replacement major work. Until 200,000 miles, I had the original
> rear brakes on the 93, but that was because mechanics kept misadjusting
> the rear brakes to where the handbrake wouldn't stop anything.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
Why do you think rental companies sell off their cars in a year or less, and
why does your reason make you laugh.
LOL


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Try telling that to the corporate fleet owners who know better, as our
> service records proved. They keep their vehicles for five year or more,
> and they don't buy many Toyotas. The ONLY fleets that by Toyotas are
> rental fleets, that sell them off in a year or less LOL
>
>
> mike
>
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:of2dnYxW5JGYlW3YnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message
>> news:6m00v2dnb972k37adaufkjr8cmpds51j71(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>> The big three seem to use computers to design pieces to just last the
>>> warranty period.
>>>
>>> It seems (at least to me) that Toyota designs parts to last a lot
>>> longer than the warranty period....and when they have a problem...they
>>> fix it.
>>>
>>> Toyota stays in my drive way....
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Scott in Florida
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I agree. The last General Maintenance product I owned started needing
>> serious work by 50,000 miles. For a Toyota, that's not even broken in
>> good yet. I consider an entire front brake/rotor replacement and rear
>> brake replacement major work. Until 200,000 miles, I had the original
>> rear brakes on the 93, but that was because mechanics kept misadjusting
>> the rear brakes to where the handbrake wouldn't stop anything.
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>
>
>


From: DH on
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "DH" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote in message
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>> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:47:12 GMT, rm(a)biteme.org wrote:
>>>
>>>>However, it is safe to say that the Apple II, particularly the II+,
>>>>accompanied by VisiCalc, was the first PC that was taken seriously
>>>>and that was marketed in any quantity.
>>>
>>> I used an Apple II + and Visi Calc to prepare my departments budget
>>> way back when. The normal drill was to submit it and upper management
>>> would reject it with a statement like "Cut it by 2 percent.
>>>
>>> All other department heads spent all night with their calculators.
>>>
>>> Me?
>>>
>>> Click....done.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott in Florida
>>
>> Hah. <manly sniff, with flinty eyes focussed on the far horizon> Real
>> men
>> did that stuff in FORTRAN, on punched cards and got the results off the
>> line
>> printer on the 360.
>>
>> And if the IBM 029 keypunch died, we'd cut the punch card holes out with
>> an
>> X-Acto knife.
>>
>> Ahhh... the good old days...
>>
>> More seriously, we used a "mainframe" tool called Empire, which was a
>> FORTRAN pre-processor that allowed analysts to create models that had
>> many
>> of the characteristics of spreadsheets without the bother of actually
>> writing FORTRAN code. When VisiCalc arrived, the guys in our outfit who
>> were using Empire instantly grasped the significance of VisiCalc and
>> started
>> clamoring for PCs. Many people say VisiCalc is what really launched the
>> PC
>> industry. VisiCalc was the original "killer app."
>
> Cool book if you can still find it, maybe at the library:
> "Programmers at Work", by Susan Lammers. Interviews with 19 programmers
> who shaped the industry. Charles Simonyi, Ray Ozzie, Toru Iwatani, etc.

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to read that book about the KGB first.

> For Scott:
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> sometimes -bre, �-?ber-e, -?be-re\
> Function:
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> Inflected Form(s):
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> Date:
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> (as books, manuscripts, recordings, or films) are kept for use but not for
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From: DH on
"C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Only a complete idiot would think that commercial was made without
>> massive safety measures in place. And, the same idiot will try a stunt
>> like that without ever having seen it done in a commercial.
>
> When I first saw the launching ramp commercial I assumed it was a complete
> fake (i.e., the ramp didn't extend over a canyon, that was faked in
> later), but hen a friend said he read it was a true demonstration, and it
> does say "actual demonstration" on the screen. Well it quit being an
> "actual demonstration" when they hid the tether. It moved over the line
> into a faked demonstration at that point. If they had showed the tether,
> it would have merely been another pointless Toyota commercial instead of a
> lie.
>
> What do you think about the Lexus IS commercial where they show one Lexus
> driving 10,000 feet in less time than it takes another to be dropped from
> 10,000 feet? Don't you think that is totally stupid? If they wanted to
> impress me, they should have started the Lexus on the ground from a
> standing start at the same moment they released the other from 10,000
> feet. As the commercial was actually done, I could have accomplished the
> same feat in my 1972 Pinto. They tried to create the illusion that the IS
> could accelerate really fast by carefully cutting the scenes, but if you
> pay attention, you release that at the moment they released the car from
> the helicopter, the IS on the ground was already at speed. The dropped car
> was accelerating at less than 1G. The car on the ground only had to be
> driven at some steady state speed that made sure it passed the target
> before the other car hit the ground. Now if they had done a standing start
> for both.....That might have been fun.
>
> Ed

I thought they key takeaway message in that commercial was that you could
safely do this with a Lexus, where you wouldn't do it with a Lincoln or
Cadillac for fear that the Detroit brand's engine might sputter and die, the
transmission might seize or something equally awful would happen that caused
you to collide with the falling object instead of passing by safely ahead of
it.

For me, a guy who had three transmissions put in his Ford in two years, that
message really resonates. And since I got rid of that lemon, some years
ago, I've driven just one other late-model Ford for just five miles and the
brakes on that one failed!



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From: Scott in Florida on
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:23:24 -0600, "DH" <dh(a)stargate.com> wrote:

>"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message
>news:jhl0v2pc6vau51ce84p8v7kp1lo7squh56(a)4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:47:12 GMT, rm(a)biteme.org wrote:
>>
>>>However, it is safe to say that the Apple II, particularly the II+,
>>>accompanied by VisiCalc, was the first PC that was taken seriously
>>>and that was marketed in any quantity.
>>
>> I used an Apple II + and Visi Calc to prepare my departments budget
>> way back when. The normal drill was to submit it and upper management
>> would reject it with a statement like "Cut it by 2 percent.
>>
>> All other department heads spent all night with their calculators.
>>
>> Me?
>>
>> Click....done.
>>
>> --
>> Scott in Florida
>
>Hah. <manly sniff, with flinty eyes focussed on the far horizon> Real men
>did that stuff in FORTRAN, on punched cards and got the results off the line
>printer on the 360.
>
>And if the IBM 029 keypunch died, we'd cut the punch card holes out with an
>X-Acto knife.
>
>Ahhh... the good old days...
>
>More seriously, we used a "mainframe" tool called Empire, which was a
>FORTRAN pre-processor that allowed analysts to create models that had many
>of the characteristics of spreadsheets without the bother of actually
>writing FORTRAN code. When VisiCalc arrived, the guys in our outfit who
>were using Empire instantly grasped the significance of VisiCalc and started
>clamoring for PCs. Many people say VisiCalc is what really launched the PC
>industry. VisiCalc was the original "killer app."

I was never a 'real man' by your definition...LOL

I just used computers and had people working for me that could
program. They loved the fact that I would give them a job and leave
them the f*ck alone to get it done.

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Scott in Florida



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