From: Scott in Florida on
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:47:12 GMT, rm(a)biteme.org wrote:

>However, it is safe to say that the Apple II, particularly the II+,
>accompanied by VisiCalc, was the first PC that was taken seriously
>and that was marketed in any quantity.

I used an Apple II + and Visi Calc to prepare my departments budget
way back when. The normal drill was to submit it and upper management
would reject it with a statement like "Cut it by 2 percent.

All other department heads spent all night with their calculators.

Me?

Click....done.

--

Scott in Florida



From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"mack" <mackerel(a)dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:45f03b3e$1(a)kcnews01...
>>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hRWHh.4403$B25.1601(a)news01.roc.ny...
>>
>>> I honestly don't care about commercials, although the "magic fridge"
>>> beer commercial is excellent. Commercials are fictional representations
>>> of whatever.
>>
>> Budweiser has the best commercials - particularly Bud Light Commercials.
>> If Bud had commercials like Toyota Tundra commercials, the guys would be
>> able to fly after they took a sip of beer....
>>
>> Ed
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> If I ran an ad agency, I'd be proud that people like Ed and Joe spend so
> much time and thought analyzing commercials. Commercials, like most
> facets of modern life, are so much BS, and if one believes that Toyotas
> can stop on a dime, Lexuses can outrun falling cars, Dodge trucks have so
> much power that it's hazardous to jump start an old GM car with one, and
> Mitsubishis can go through city streets at a speed greater than the land
> speed record, they must also believe in Copperfield's magic and Paris
> Hilton's intellect.


Sometimes, we can WISH they represented reality. Have you seen the trunk
monkey commercials? I'm especially fond of numbers 4 and 6. :-)
www.trunkmonkey.com


From: DH on
"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant(a)mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:47:12 GMT, rm(a)biteme.org wrote:
>
>>However, it is safe to say that the Apple II, particularly the II+,
>>accompanied by VisiCalc, was the first PC that was taken seriously
>>and that was marketed in any quantity.
>
> I used an Apple II + and Visi Calc to prepare my departments budget
> way back when. The normal drill was to submit it and upper management
> would reject it with a statement like "Cut it by 2 percent.
>
> All other department heads spent all night with their calculators.
>
> Me?
>
> Click....done.
>
> --
> Scott in Florida

Hah. <manly sniff, with flinty eyes focussed on the far horizon> Real men
did that stuff in FORTRAN, on punched cards and got the results off the line
printer on the 360.

And if the IBM 029 keypunch died, we'd cut the punch card holes out with an
X-Acto knife.

Ahhh... the good old days...

More seriously, we used a "mainframe" tool called Empire, which was a
FORTRAN pre-processor that allowed analysts to create models that had many
of the characteristics of spreadsheets without the bother of actually
writing FORTRAN code. When VisiCalc arrived, the guys in our outfit who
were using Empire instantly grasped the significance of VisiCalc and started
clamoring for PCs. Many people say VisiCalc is what really launched the PC
industry. VisiCalc was the original "killer app."



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From: Mike Hunter on
Perhaps, in your opinion but in the opinion of actual buyers, the ones that
sell the best are indeed 'better' in their minds. That is WHY they bought
what they bought. Price is indeed an important consideration, what am I
getting for all that money.
After ten years as Group Sale Manager for one ort the largest mega
dealership groups on the east coast, I can assure you the last question,
asked of every salesman, before the buyer signs on the dotted line is, 'How
much is my monthly payment?' ;)



mike


"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff wrote:
>
>> I also pointed out that the Corolla is the best selling car (and
>> actually, it is the best selling vehicle of all time, surpassing even the
>> F150 series).
>
> The Camry is the best selling car in the U.S. for the past four years,
> though worldwide the Corolla is the best selling car. Technically the VW
> Beetle is the best selling car ever, if you don't allow for significant
> body changes over the life of the car.
>
>> However, the number of sales don't show that GM is better than Ford, any
>> more than it shows that Toyota is better than Ford.
>
> "Better" is so subjective. Is this based on profitability, most units
> sold, reliability, safety, or what?


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
Ah ha. I had a feeling you were impartial in your comments.


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2(a)mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps, in your opinion but in the opinion of actual buyers, the ones
> that sell the best are indeed 'better' in their minds. That is WHY they
> bought what they bought. Price is indeed an important consideration, what
> am I getting for all that money.
> After ten years as Group Sale Manager for one ort the largest mega
> dealership groups on the east coast, I can assure you the last question,
> asked of every salesman, before the buyer signs on the dotted line is,
> 'How much is my monthly payment?' ;)
>
>
>
> mike
>
>
> "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:45ef88dd$0$27193$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> I also pointed out that the Corolla is the best selling car (and
>>> actually, it is the best selling vehicle of all time, surpassing even
>>> the F150 series).
>>
>> The Camry is the best selling car in the U.S. for the past four years,
>> though worldwide the Corolla is the best selling car. Technically the VW
>> Beetle is the best selling car ever, if you don't allow for significant
>> body changes over the life of the car.
>>
>>> However, the number of sales don't show that GM is better than Ford, any
>>> more than it shows that Toyota is better than Ford.
>>
>> "Better" is so subjective. Is this based on profitability, most units
>> sold, reliability, safety, or what?
>
>


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