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From: Built_Well on 3 Oct 2007 08:44 C. E. White wrote: > I like the OE Toyota filters (made in Japan, P/N 90915-10004) and > would keep using them if I can find them. I am not impressed with the > Toyota replacement style filters (made in Thailand, P/N 90915-YZZF1). > I prefer the Purolater PL14477 Filter over the 90915-YZZF1 Filter. ======== Thank you very much for the info, Ed. Do you happen to have a link to that SAE research paper written by Barris about air filters? It's $14 at SAE.org, the price of an Amsoil filter ;-) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Ed White on 3 Oct 2007 20:28 "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:pan.2007.10.03.12.44.29.107134(a)hotmail.com... > > C. E. White wrote: > >> I like the OE Toyota filters (made in Japan, P/N 90915-10004) and >> would keep using them if I can find them. I am not impressed with the >> Toyota replacement style filters (made in Thailand, P/N 90915-YZZF1). >> I prefer the Purolater PL14477 Filter over the 90915-YZZF1 Filter. > ======== > > Thank you very much for the info, Ed. Do you happen to have a link to > that SAE research paper written by Barris about air filters? It's > $14 at SAE.org, the price of an Amsoil filter ;-) SAE does a very good job of securing it's papers these days. It used to be that you could purchase a pdf copy and share it. How they have added extra security that prevents copies from opening on other computers. I've never downloaded that particular paper. I've only read the extracts quoted in other papers. You might find a freely available SAE paper from Visteon interesting. See http://www.visteon.com/utils/whitepapers/2005_01_1139.pdf . It discusses factors that contribute to air filter life. Ed
From: Retired VIP on 3 Oct 2007 20:49 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:18:37 -0400, "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)removemindspring.com> wrote: > >"Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:4702be07$0$26469$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... >> >> C. E. White wrote: >> > Thailand made Denso filters. >> ======== >> >> Most of the parts under my 'yota's hood have >> Denso on them. Denso must have some American >> factories, too, because I stopped by the dealership >> today to get a look at the OEM air filter they sell. The >> packaging had Toyota on it and the air filter had >> "Denso" written on it and "Made in the U.S.A." > >Toyota owns a big chunk (23% or so) of Nippondenso (aka Denso) >directly, and indirectly owns more through other companies it >controls. Roughly 50% of Denso's sales are to Toyota. Honda is Denso's >second largest Customer, but at 7.5% of Denso's volume, they are not >exactly a major Customer. > >Denso has quite a few manufacturing plants in the US (and more in >Canada and Mexico). Air and oil filters are manufactured at a plant in >Tennessee plant owned by a joint venture between Denso and Toyota >Boshoku (another Toyota affiliate) The company is TBDN Tennessee >Company. It manufactures air cleaners and oil filters. See - >http://www.tbdn.com/products.shtml . The oil filters I have bought for >my SO's RAV4 are labeled either made in Japan (the good ones) or made >in Thailand (the less good ones). Denso may own manufacturing plants in the US but they may also contract out to other manufacturers in the US. For instance, Interstate Batteries are made by Johnson Controls as are quite a few of the domestic OEM batteries. Exide is another company that manufactures batteries that are re-branded. Both companies make quality products. Just because the oil filter is made in Thailand or Tennessee doesn't mean it's inferior to ones made in Japan. Jack --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000778-2, 10/03/2007 Tested on: 10/3/2007 8:49:29 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
From: Ed White on 3 Oct 2007 20:59 "Retired VIP" <Jackj14321(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i1d8g319id8hl7fuh9h2cbb00e59lcjeei(a)4ax.com... > Just because the oil filter is made in Thailand or Tennessee doesn't > mean it's inferior to ones made in Japan. I didn't mean to imply that this was the case. Go to my page showing the insides of the two filters mentioned and decide for yourself which you prefer. See http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id12.html . Ed
From: Retired VIP on 4 Oct 2007 09:06
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:59:59 -0400, "Ed White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >"Retired VIP" <Jackj14321(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:i1d8g319id8hl7fuh9h2cbb00e59lcjeei(a)4ax.com... > >> Just because the oil filter is made in Thailand or Tennessee doesn't >> mean it's inferior to ones made in Japan. > >I didn't mean to imply that this was the case. Go to my page showing the >insides of the two filters mentioned and decide for yourself which you >prefer. See http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id12.html . > >Ed > Hi Ed, Thanks for the link, you've done some work there. But I fail to see what there is about any of the filters that you don't like. You admit that you have no scientific test results on any of the filters. I think it would be impossible to judge filter material efficiency by appearance alone. I'm not saying that you are wrong, just that I don't see anything from the pictures that would make me choose one over the other. Jack --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000778-3, 10/04/2007 Tested on: 10/4/2007 9:06:57 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |