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From: Steve on 22 Oct 2009 12:56
Mike Hunter wrote:
> The Tundra plant, was built with Texas State low interest bonds, not Toyota
> funds. The taxpayers paid to build the roads to the plant, as well.


Yes, and some of us are still really pissed about that....
From: E. Meyer on 22 Oct 2009 18:08
On 10/22/09 11:54 AM, in article LPidnVlgO8nAE33XnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)texas.net,
"Steve" <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote:

>
> And where's the surprise here?
>
>
> A massively over-bulked pickup introduced at the start of a gas price
> spike. With no 3/4 or one-ton option to appeal to contractors. With no
> diesel option to appeal to farmers, moving companies, RV-towing
> retirees, or other mid-sized hauling operations. With an immediate
> record of reliability problems guaranteed to scare away cautious,
> bottom-line oriented, data-driven fleet buyers who don't buy into the
> Japanese reliability mythos as readily as consumers.
>
> It was a condo-dweller's weekend Home Depot run truck (or city poseur
> truck to be blunt) introduced at the VERY instant in time when the
> demand for city poseur trucks was guaranteed to tank.

When you put it that way, I get deja vu of a Nissan Titan.

From: Ashton Crusher on 23 Oct 2009 01:51
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:54:53 -0500, Steve <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote:

>
>And where's the surprise here?
>
>
>A massively over-bulked pickup introduced at the start of a gas price
>spike. With no 3/4 or one-ton option to appeal to contractors. With no
>diesel option to appeal to farmers, moving companies, RV-towing
>retirees, or other mid-sized hauling operations. With an immediate
>record of reliability problems guaranteed to scare away cautious,
>bottom-line oriented, data-driven fleet buyers who don't buy into the
>Japanese reliability mythos as readily as consumers.
>
>It was a condo-dweller's weekend Home Depot run truck (or city poseur
>truck to be blunt) introduced at the VERY instant in time when the
>demand for city poseur trucks was guaranteed to tank.


Is it really that bad? What have been the reliability problems? I
only know one person who owns a Tundra and he seems to like it. I
know several people with the Tacoma? the smaller one and they all
like them.
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Oct 2009 11:50
The largest single buyer of Titan trucks is the sate of Tennessee. LOL

"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C7064208.13387%epmeyer50(a)gmail.com...
> On 10/22/09 11:54 AM, in article
> LPidnVlgO8nAE33XnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)texas.net,
> "Steve" <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote:
>
>>
>> And where's the surprise here?
>>
>>
>> A massively over-bulked pickup introduced at the start of a gas price
>> spike. With no 3/4 or one-ton option to appeal to contractors. With no
>> diesel option to appeal to farmers, moving companies, RV-towing
>> retirees, or other mid-sized hauling operations. With an immediate
>> record of reliability problems guaranteed to scare away cautious,
>> bottom-line oriented, data-driven fleet buyers who don't buy into the
>> Japanese reliability mythos as readily as consumers.
>>
>> It was a condo-dweller's weekend Home Depot run truck (or city poseur
>> truck to be blunt) introduced at the VERY instant in time when the
>> demand for city poseur trucks was guaranteed to tank.
>
> When you put it that way, I get deja vu of a Nissan Titan.
>


From: Mike Hunter on 23 Oct 2009 11:52
The Tacoma is the GOOD truck Toyota sells.


"Ashton Crusher" <demi(a)moore.net> wrote in message
news:rug2e5pkshla9ugm0ng3480i4f2ev02r9a(a)4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:54:53 -0500, Steve <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote:
>
>>
>>And where's the surprise here?
>>
>>
>>A massively over-bulked pickup introduced at the start of a gas price
>>spike. With no 3/4 or one-ton option to appeal to contractors. With no
>>diesel option to appeal to farmers, moving companies, RV-towing
>>retirees, or other mid-sized hauling operations. With an immediate
>>record of reliability problems guaranteed to scare away cautious,
>>bottom-line oriented, data-driven fleet buyers who don't buy into the
>>Japanese reliability mythos as readily as consumers.
>>
>>It was a condo-dweller's weekend Home Depot run truck (or city poseur
>>truck to be blunt) introduced at the VERY instant in time when the
>>demand for city poseur trucks was guaranteed to tank.
>
>
> Is it really that bad? What have been the reliability problems? I
> only know one person who owns a Tundra and he seems to like it. I
> know several people with the Tacoma? the smaller one and they all
> like them.
>


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