A little spare time to think. Remembering my Chevy Vega..
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From: Stewart on 30 Sep 2009 23:43 "Otis" <rev_otis_mcnatt(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1f20ce7d-cd39-4208-920c-08032814acbb(a)37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > Over the years, the inevitable subject of worst cars ever comes up, > and the Vega > is always at or near the top of the list. I've seen it a hundred > times. I feel I should > put in a good word for the little car. > > My sister got a new Vega in early 1973 (a stripped-down one at that, > about as basic > as was available). I then inherited it in late '74 and drove it > merrily for another full > year. That little car was never ONE ounce of trouble. It cruised > at > 75 mph like > a charm, never burped or coughed, and I actually don't know that the > oil was > ever changed!!!! Maybe the car was serviced when my sister had it, > but I know > it wasn't during the time I had it (young and car stupid I guess). > When > I traded it in for my dream car at the time (the dreamy '75 Toyota > Celica GT), > it had about 42k miles on it and still performed like a trooper. > Maybe it > was a rare gem off the assembly line I don't know, but I had three > friends > who also had Vegas and I don't remember any of them being lemons; > one > did have notoriously squeally brakes though IIRC. I've had good luck with 60's Ramblers. '63 Classic, and a '66....great cars, and the front seat folded down to the rear seat......perfect. My brother now has 5 of them, all on good running condition... '60 Classic (flat head 6), '65 Marlin, '67 Ambassador Convertible (with an AMC 327), '65 Classic Wagon....hmm, I can't recall the last one at this senior moment.
From: hls on 1 Oct 2009 19:10 "dsi1" <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote in message >> Fiat is a bit of a joke, even in Europe. I lived there for many many >> years. > > I'm guessing it's partially because they're such a big force in Europe, > the same as GM is in the states. You would be very wrong... In Europe, many people buy for quality, or at least perceived quality. Fiat and Lancia suck in this perception outside of Italia. People outside Italy buy Fiat largely on price. The quality has improved, but years of rustbucket shitteaux Fiats still leave a lot of buyers cold. Many Europeans will not buy a British version of a car (such as GM or Ford), preferring the German versions. The British have bragged about quality for years, but sucked.
From: dsi1 on 1 Oct 2009 19:32 hls wrote: > > "dsi1" <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote in message >>> Fiat is a bit of a joke, even in Europe. I lived there for many many >>> years. >> >> I'm guessing it's partially because they're such a big force in >> Europe, the same as GM is in the states. > > You would be very wrong... In Europe, many people buy for quality, or at > least perceived quality. Fiat and Lancia suck in this perception > outside of Italia. People outside Italy buy Fiat largely on price. I'm not sure why you would say I was wrong. I made no comment about the quality of Fiat cars nor did I say anything about what Europeans are looking for when they buy a car. Obviously, most people would rather have a Mercedes or a Lexus but the reality is that most people settle for a Chevy over here and a Fiat(or VW) in Europe.
From: Nate Nagel on 1 Oct 2009 19:45 dsi1 wrote: > hls wrote: >> >> "dsi1" <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote in message >>>> Fiat is a bit of a joke, even in Europe. I lived there for many >>>> many years. >>> >>> I'm guessing it's partially because they're such a big force in >>> Europe, the same as GM is in the states. >> >> You would be very wrong... In Europe, many people buy for quality, or >> at least perceived quality. Fiat and Lancia suck in this perception >> outside of Italia. People outside Italy buy Fiat largely on price. > > I'm not sure why you would say I was wrong. I made no comment about the > quality of Fiat cars nor did I say anything about what Europeans are > looking for when they buy a car. > > Obviously, most people would rather have a Mercedes or a Lexus but the > reality is that most people settle for a Chevy over here and a Fiat(or > VW) in Europe. IME VW is a LARGE cut above Chevy... at least the A4 GTI I had felt like a little luxury car inside, and I had no real problems with it save for the #@$%@#$ window issues. My mom now loves it too :/ (gotta figure out how to get her to buy a new car so I can have it back...) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: dsi1 on 1 Oct 2009 19:55 Nate Nagel wrote: > dsi1 wrote: >> hls wrote: >>> >>> "dsi1" <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote in message >>>>> Fiat is a bit of a joke, even in Europe. I lived there for many >>>>> many years. >>>> >>>> I'm guessing it's partially because they're such a big force in >>>> Europe, the same as GM is in the states. >>> >>> You would be very wrong... In Europe, many people buy for quality, or >>> at least perceived quality. Fiat and Lancia suck in this perception >>> outside of Italia. People outside Italy buy Fiat largely on price. >> >> I'm not sure why you would say I was wrong. I made no comment about >> the quality of Fiat cars nor did I say anything about what Europeans >> are looking for when they buy a car. >> >> Obviously, most people would rather have a Mercedes or a Lexus but the >> reality is that most people settle for a Chevy over here and a Fiat(or >> VW) in Europe. > > IME VW is a LARGE cut above Chevy... at least the A4 GTI I had felt > like a little luxury car inside, and I had no real problems with it save > for the #@$%@#$ window issues. My mom now loves it too :/ (gotta > figure out how to get her to buy a new car so I can have it back...) > > nate > I loved the VWs I've had. They did have some problems with the valve stem seals and the fuse boxes on the early FWD cars. Killer rust problems. As it goes, any car has it's weak points, well, Chevys and VWs and Fiats, anyway. :-)
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