911 Tape: Runaway Lexus Driver Reported No Brakes
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From: C. E. White on 1 Oct 2009 07:39 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.09.30.01.45.05.255639(a)e86.GTS... > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:05:47 -0700, john wrote: > >> >> "Chris Lastrella, were killed after reporting to a 911 operator >> that they >> could not stop their Lexus ES 350, as it careened down Route 125 in >> Santee, Calif. The tape of the brief call was made public this >> month. It >> features the voice of Lastrella, telling the operator that the >> vehicle had >> no brakes. The call ended with occupants calling on each other to >> pray." > > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake. The car had the push button start. A lot of people don't realize that to kill the engine with one of those when the car is in gear you have to push and hold the button in for 3 seconds or so. Panic does strange things to peopel. Putting the car in neutral would have solved the whole thing. Ed
From: C. E. White on 1 Oct 2009 07:45 "Scott in Florida" <MoveOn(a)outa.here> wrote in message news:skk6c5dfajmslnbjt8cd2l9oapq72hp03r(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:30:39 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> > wrote: > >>On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:00:01 -0700, mcbrue wrote: >> >>> >>> If I turn the key off in my 06 LS 460, the steering wheel locks >>> and I die >>> of collision. >> >>And? >> >>Sean Kane, president of Safety Research & Strategies, said an Aug. >>28 >>crash that killed four -- >> >> >>I'll take my chances with the engine off, or the car in neutral, or >>whatever. >> > > Jeez, it was a loaner. > > put it in neutral and come to a stop. call the dealer and tell them > to come pick up their disabled car. Or wait for the car to stop, yank out the mat jamming the accelerator pedal, let the brakes cool, and then drive on. The only thing shifting the car into neutral would do is make a lot of racket until you got the mat out. The engine computer won't let the engine over rev...... I smell an Audi 5000 like over reaction coming. How long before I have to endure the 60 Minutes hatchet job on Toyota? Or maybe it will be Dateline. I can picture it now - a Toyota racing out of control, with a floor mat carefully glued into a weird position to make sure it jams the pedal. Ed
From: Michael on 14 Oct 2009 11:41 On Sep 29, 9:38 pm, Hal <hala...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake. > > > Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and > > start button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the > > procedure to kill engine and not lock the wheel. > > > -- > > So put the transmission lever in neutral and let the engine rev itself > off the limiter, so long as the engine and transaxle are disengaged > the car will slow down.... Maybe in flat eastern Nebraska or Iowa but not if he's going downhill. Google Earth shows Hwy 125 in Santee, CA is in the hills/ mountains. That's going to take some skill to slow down. > > The mindlessness of people just amazes me some days...if my car was > going full-bore I'd shut the damn thing down one way or another. Turn > off the key, press the clutch, pull the e-brake, put it in > neutral....put it in park...I don't care. There is just no way a > failure such as a stuck accelerator pedal, even on one of them drive- > by-wire jobbies, should cause a car to be unstoppable..... > > Chris Michael
From: Gary L. Burnore on 16 Oct 2009 22:21
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT), Michael <mrdarrett(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Sep 29, 9:38�pm, Hal <hala...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake. >> >> > Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and >> > start button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the >> > procedure to kill engine and not lock the wheel. >> >> > -- >> >> So put the transmission lever in neutral and let the engine rev itself >> off the limiter, so long as the engine and transaxle are disengaged >> the car will slow down.... > > >Maybe in flat eastern Nebraska or Iowa but not if he's going >downhill. Google Earth shows Hwy 125 in Santee, CA is in the hills/ >mountains. That's going to take some skill to slow down. He was a POLICE OFFICER. There was no excuse. |