911 Tape: Runaway Lexus Driver Reported No Brakes
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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 30 Sep 2009 00:30 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:00:01 -0700, mcbrue wrote: > > If I turn the key off in my 06 LS 460, the steering wheel locks and I die > of collision. And? Sean Kane, president of Safety Research & Strategies, said an Aug. 28 crash that killed four -- I'll take my chances with the engine off, or the car in neutral, or whatever.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 30 Sep 2009 00:31 On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:49:40 -0400, aemeijers wrote: > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:05:47 -0700, john wrote: >> >>> "Chris Lastrella, were killed after reporting to a 911 operator that >>> they could not stop their Lexus ES 350, as it careened down Route 125 >>> in Santee, Calif. The tape of the brief call was made public this >>> month. It features the voice of Lastrella, telling the operator that >>> the vehicle had no brakes. The call ended with occupants calling on >>> each other to pray." >> >> All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake. >> > Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and start > button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the procedure > to kill engine and not lock the wheel. OK. And the excuse for neutral would be?
From: Hal on 30 Sep 2009 00:38 > > All he had to do was turn off the key and use the e brake. > > Do try to keep up- no key, this is one of those transponder fob and > start button setups. And it was a loaner- he was not familiar with the > procedure to kill engine and not lock the wheel. > > -- So put the transmission lever in neutral and let the engine rev itself off the limiter, so long as the engine and transaxle are disengaged the car will slow down.... The mindlessness of people just amazes me some days...if my car was going full-bore I'd shut the damn thing down one way or another. Turn off the key, press the clutch, pull the e-brake, put it in neutral....put it in park...I don't care. There is just no way a failure such as a stuck accelerator pedal, even on one of them drive- by-wire jobbies, should cause a car to be unstoppable..... Chris
From: bob on 30 Sep 2009 01:05 In article <e2a78983-5aac-431d-aa07- 60f850e73d6b(a)x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johngdole(a)hotmail.com says... > > Toyota issued a second recall related to floor mats. The first one > (Sep 2007) sure didn't help Lastrella's family of 4, who reported, > according to 911 tape, that the car had no brakes!! > > "Chris Lastrella, were killed after reporting to a 911 operator that > they could not stop their Lexus ES 350, as it careened down Route 125 > in Santee, Calif. The tape of the brief call was made public this > month. It features the voice of Lastrella, telling the operator that > the vehicle had no brakes. The call ended with occupants calling on > each other to pray." > > http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20090929/AUTO01/909290412/1148/auto01/Government-issues--urgent--warning-to-remove-Toyota--Lexus-floor-mats The story I read on Yahoo today said that the NTSB had found that the floor mats in the vehicle were larger than the proper size. I don't know if that means that the proper sized ones wouldn't have this problem. Do Lexus vehicles have a hook to prevent the factory floor mats from sliding forward? Bob
From: Ray O on 30 Sep 2009 01:09
"bob" <nottooslow42(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:MPG.252ca317d0e6f6bd9896bb(a)news.eternal-september.org... > In article <e2a78983-5aac-431d-aa07- > 60f850e73d6b(a)x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johngdole(a)hotmail.com > says... >> >> Toyota issued a second recall related to floor mats. The first one >> (Sep 2007) sure didn't help Lastrella's family of 4, who reported, >> according to 911 tape, that the car had no brakes!! >> >> "Chris Lastrella, were killed after reporting to a 911 operator that >> they could not stop their Lexus ES 350, as it careened down Route 125 >> in Santee, Calif. The tape of the brief call was made public this >> month. It features the voice of Lastrella, telling the operator that >> the vehicle had no brakes. The call ended with occupants calling on >> each other to pray." >> >> http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20090929/AUTO01/909290412/1148/auto01/Government-issues--urgent--warning-to-remove-Toyota--Lexus-floor-mats > > The story I read on Yahoo today said that the NTSB had found that the > floor mats in the vehicle were larger than the proper size. > > I don't know if that means that the proper sized ones wouldn't have this > problem. > > Do Lexus vehicles have a hook to prevent the factory floor mats from > sliding forward? > > Bob > Yes. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |