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From: Michael on 5 Sep 2009 18:11 On Sep 5, 10:46 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:54:26 -0700, Michael wrote: > > On Sep 5, 3:16 am, "Sharx35" <shar...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> "Michael" <mrdarr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:9f735bc7-f8b3-4db1-931a-a297a9bfb4d9(a)z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > >> > On Sep 4, 5:34 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:40:49 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> >> >news:h7rhso$qlu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > >> >> >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > >> >> >>news:DSbom.170494$Qg6.128336(a)newsfe14.iad... > > >> >> >>> What about moving objects other than cars? > > >> >> >> ??? > > >> >> > Can't think of any such objects? > > >> >> Moose. Deer. Maybe a bear. We are talking Vermont here. > > >> >> However, when I was 29 in Canada and took my Hachi up to 130, it was a > >> >> holiday weekend. But there were two other cars a bit in front of me, > >> >> clearing the path. > > >> >> No balls. > > >> > You're in Vermont? > > >> > How much is the maple syrup out there? > > >> > Maple syrup was about $28 for 1/2 quart (eh, 1/2 liter) at Costco a > >> > few months back. On our trip to Toronto, I was excited to buy it for > >> > CAN$15 per liter. Wow. Then I come home to Sacramento and notice the > >> > price is now $13 per quart. > > >> > Michael > > >> Here in Edmonton Canada, it is $16.99 CDN a litre. Last year it was TEN > >> bucks CDN a litre. > > > Ten bucks a litre... wow... > > > This is what I would use it for: > >http://www.williams-sonoma.com/recipe/recipedetail.cfm?objectid=8DEB2... > > I just put on ten pounds looking at the picture! > > WOW! Don't eat it all at once now... :D I bought about 5 liters of maple syrup from Toronto. That should last me at least two years... plus it's cheap at the local Costco now... and to think, I was envisioning trucking a whole lot of maple syrup from Toronto and selling it here for $28/half-liter... Michael
From: Toby Ponsenby on 5 Sep 2009 22:13 On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:57:26 -0700, Jeff Strickland blathered on in: > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.09.02.23.25.27.998935(a)e86.GTS... >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:44:52 -0700, PHATRS wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I did 298 km/h in my RenaultSport Megane 225 the other day down Toorak >>> Rd. >> >> >> Hmmm... >> >> Speedo in my Scion tC said 122 (MPH), but GPS only registered 116. >> Which do I believe? >> > > The GPS. > > The speedo will always (unless oversized tires are fitted) read faster than > you are going. > > The idea is that if you get a ticket for doing 50 in a 45, it is not a valid > defense to say, but my speedo said I was doing 40. If you are doing 50 in a > 45, your speedo will be reading 55-ish at the time. > > The GPS is far more accurate than your speedo will ever hope to be, since > its job is to actually report real information. > > You might be able to dial in the speedo n the tC by getting the next size > WIDER tire. Here's why. The tire size, 215/45 says that the tread is 215mm > wide, and the sidewall is 45% of that, or 96.75mm. > > If you bumped from the 215 to a 225, the tread would be 10mm wider, and the > tire circumference would increase from 77.3 inches to 78.4 inches. this inch > of added circumference would slow the speedo relative the actual speed of > the car. The result is that you should get a speedo reading of 117-ish when > the actual speed was 116. > > The wider tire, by itself would not change the speedo. But the aspect ratio > (sidewall height) is a percentage of the width, so the wider tire will give > a taller tire if the aspect RATIO remains the same. 45% of 225 is a bigger > number than 45% of 215, so the 225 is not only wider, it's taller as well. BRAVO!! Finally some comment about the tyre circumference!! And diameter - now all we need is diameter - listed helpfully for every tyre ever made by its manufacturer - and available for your edification at the local tyre dealers, too! As for speedo accuracy, you lot ahould be aware that speedo accuracy is legislated? It's usually set up as a percentage, sometimes set up for a given speed depending on the country standards - plus or minus a certain amount. It's generally forbidden for any speedo on any vehicle sold to under- estimate the road-speed of the vehicle. Over-estimation is allowed. Here we have speedos conforming to -0 - +4 @100Km'Hr recently and prior to that -1 - +4 . And you're right, the manufacturers are quite capable of building accurate speed measurement into their product. They accepted the changes to 0 under-estimation with barely a murmer. Of course they delight in over-estimating speed - always have. We've had stock standard GM and Ford products, for instance, that overestimate their speeds by shitloads just to have their drivers 'believe' they'd bought a fast car. Duh. The idea is that we can't possibly use speedo error as a defence in a speeding fine case. There are ALSO regs about the maximum variation of wheel diameter to further ensure GovCo speeding revenues can't be got at by defences involving to non-standard tyre and wheel sizes. Natch, the only way you can avoid these stupidities is to ride a bicycle. They are NOT legislated to carry a speedometer, so you can't possibly be booked for speeding since you have a ready-made legitimate defence. -- Toby If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Einstein
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 5 Sep 2009 22:29 On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:13:02 +1000, Toby Ponsenby wrote: > Natch, the only way you can avoid these stupidities is to ride a bicycle. > They are NOT legislated to carry a speedometer, SHHHHHH!!!! Don't give them MORE ideas! However, you can be cited for riding under the influence! ;) > > -- > Toby > If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, > then we are a sorry lot indeed. See "Pay it Forward".
From: Jeff Strickland on 6 Sep 2009 12:25 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2009.09.06.02.29.53.757336(a)e86.GTS... > On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:13:02 +1000, Toby Ponsenby wrote: > >> Natch, the only way you can avoid these stupidities is to ride a bicycle. >> They are NOT legislated to carry a speedometer, > > > SHHHHHH!!!! Don't give them MORE ideas! > > However, you can be cited for riding under the influence! ;) > I was stopped on my bike for speeding on base. I was stationed at Nellis AFB, outside of Las Vegas, and rode my bike from the barracks to the duty station -- I had a car too, but the distance was short, the pay was low, and gas was rationed in those days. Anyhow, the speed limit on base was 25 in most areas, and 35 in areas where it was not 25. I was pulled over by the MPs for exceeding the 25mph speed limit. They paced me, and cited me for flying under the radar. ;) I don't remember getting a ticket, but a speeding ticket on a bicycle is not outside the realm of possibility. The lack of a speedometer is not a defense, as far as I know.
From: Michael on 6 Sep 2009 16:47
On Sep 6, 9:25 am, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > > news:pan.2009.09.06.02.29.53.757336(a)e86.GTS... > > > On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:13:02 +1000, Toby Ponsenby wrote: > > >> Natch, the only way you can avoid these stupidities is to ride a bicycle. > >> They are NOT legislated to carry a speedometer, > > > SHHHHHH!!!! Don't give them MORE ideas! > > > However, you can be cited for riding under the influence! ;) > > I was stopped on my bike for speeding on base. I was stationed at Nellis > AFB, outside of Las Vegas, and rode my bike from the barracks to the duty > station -- I had a car too, but the distance was short, the pay was low, and > gas was rationed in those days. Anyhow, the speed limit on base was 25 in > most areas, and 35 in areas where it was not 25. I was pulled over by the > MPs for exceeding the 25mph speed limit. They paced me, and cited me for > flying under the radar. ;) > > I don't remember getting a ticket, but a speeding ticket on a bicycle is not > outside the realm of possibility. The lack of a speedometer is not a > defense, as far as I know. In 1999 or 2000, in the City of Davis, California, while I was at the University of California at Davis, I was stopped by a bike cop for biking on the wrong side of the street, and got a $30 ticket. Michael |