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From: Paul on 7 Feb 2007 16:25 I was researching a problem with my 22RE engine and found this group. My problem appears to be a common one; the timing chain has worn a hole in the cover. The shop where I took it has told me that I'd be better off either junking the truck or going w/ a reman engine. Any advice from someone who has been there would be appreciated. The truck has 210k miles on it, but I have only owned it for the last 6 months. I was on the way to work the other day when it stalled out at idle. It started right back up, but ran rough. I drove it a total of about 5 miles in that condition. According to the mechanic, I didn't damage the valves (chain didn't break), but he thinks with the mileage that I'd be throwing money away by replacing the cover and chain. Thanks, Paul
From: Mike on 7 Feb 2007 20:18 "Paul" <pdr1464(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1170883507.199085.72360(a)k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I was researching a problem with my 22RE engine and found this group. > My problem appears to be a common one; the timing chain has worn a > hole in the cover. The shop where I took it has told me that I'd be > better off either junking the truck or going w/ a reman engine. Any > advice from someone who has been there would be appreciated. > > The truck has 210k miles on it, but I have only owned it for the last > 6 months. I was on the way to work the other day when it stalled out > at idle. It started right back up, but ran rough. I drove it a total > of about 5 miles in that condition. According to the mechanic, I > didn't damage the valves (chain didn't break), but he thinks with the > mileage that I'd be throwing money away by replacing the cover and > chain. > > Thanks, > Paul > That's a good question but really hard to answer. What condition is the rest of the truck in ? How much is the repair going to cost ? Can you purchase another vehicle for the price of the repair ? If the truck is in good condition and well maintained it may be a good idea to have it repaired. While you are doing the timing chain and cover remove the cylinder head and have a valve job done. It might be a pricy repair but you shouldn't have any more engine problems. Depending on the cost of repair you may be able to purchase another vehicle for less money. If you purchase another vehicle it may need just as much work as the one you have now. Then you would be out the money for a second vehicle and repair costs.
From: Bill Hall on 7 Feb 2007 23:18 Attn: Mike Have you ever ACTUALLY replaced a timing chain, without removing the head? Also, the oil pan! Head item aside, how do you check (remove) any broken gasket material and junk (metal particles ) that most likely have been ground up and will wind up in the oil pan and subsequent pump!!. Maybe I have done the last two the wrong way............ Might add, that the cost of the repair, if done by the OP (with help) should not be much over $400.00, far less than the cost of a new truck! Just my .02 Bill "Mike" <mik(a)localnet.com> wrote in message news:QTuyh.2186$B25.260(a)news01.roc.ny... > > "Paul" <pdr1464(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1170883507.199085.72360(a)k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> I was researching a problem with my 22RE engine and found this group. >> My problem appears to be a common one; the timing chain has worn a >> hole in the cover. The shop where I took it has told me that I'd be >> better off either junking the truck or going w/ a reman engine. Any >> advice from someone who has been there would be appreciated. >> >> The truck has 210k miles on it, but I have only owned it for the last >> 6 months. I was on the way to work the other day when it stalled out >> at idle. It started right back up, but ran rough. I drove it a total >> of about 5 miles in that condition. According to the mechanic, I >> didn't damage the valves (chain didn't break), but he thinks with the >> mileage that I'd be throwing money away by replacing the cover and >> chain. >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> > > That's a good question but really hard to answer. What condition is the > rest of the truck in ? How much is the repair going to cost ? Can you > purchase another vehicle for the price of the repair ? > > If the truck is in good condition and well maintained it may be a good > idea to have it repaired. While you are doing the timing chain and cover > remove the cylinder head and have a valve job done. It might be a pricy > repair but you shouldn't have any more engine problems. > > Depending on the cost of repair you may be able to purchase another > vehicle > for less money. If you purchase another vehicle it may need just as much > work as the one you have now. Then you would be out the money for a second > vehicle and repair costs. > >
From: Ernie Leimkuhler on 8 Feb 2007 02:03 In article <1170883507.199085.72360(a)k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Paul" <pdr1464(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I was researching a problem with my 22RE engine and found this group. > My problem appears to be a common one; the timing chain has worn a > hole in the cover. The shop where I took it has told me that I'd be > better off either junking the truck or going w/ a reman engine. Any > advice from someone who has been there would be appreciated. > > The truck has 210k miles on it, but I have only owned it for the last > 6 months. I was on the way to work the other day when it stalled out > at idle. It started right back up, but ran rough. I drove it a total > of about 5 miles in that condition. According to the mechanic, I > didn't damage the valves (chain didn't break), but he thinks with the > mileage that I'd be throwing money away by replacing the cover and > chain. > > Thanks, > Paul I did six 22RE headgaskets last year. On my trucks and a few friends. Every time I did the headgasket I went ahead and replaced the timing chain cover, timing chain set, oil pump, and water pump. All 4 of those together cost around $125 from the eBay parts dealers. If the hole dumped your coolant into your oil pan then the engine will need to be flushed before it can be used. You might as well do the headgasket, and the rest. Doing your own rebuild isn't that hard, and will end up around $500 in parts. It does however take quite a bit of time, quite a list of tools, a bit of shop space to lay out the parts, and you really should get a factory manual for your truck. A reman engine can cost from $1000 to $1800, depending on who you get it from. You can also opt for a Japanese crate engine known as the 21RU. They cost around $600 and bolt right in. They have a little less power, but they do work. Toyota trucks routinely get 250,000 to 300,000 miles before the first headgasket blows or the timing chain goes out. After a rebuild you are looking at around 80,000 to 100,000 miles before it goes again. The best consistent engine pricing I have seen is from a eBay dealer from Oregon.
From: grinder on 8 Feb 2007 10:43
"Paul" <pdr1464(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1170883507.199085.72360(a)k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I was researching a problem with my 22RE engine and found this group. > My problem appears to be a common one; the timing chain has worn a > hole in the cover. The shop where I took it has told me that I'd be > better off either junking the truck or going w/ a reman engine. Any > advice from someone who has been there would be appreciated. > > The truck has 210k miles on it, but I have only owned it for the last > 6 months. I was on the way to work the other day when it stalled out > at idle. It started right back up, but ran rough. I drove it a total > of about 5 miles in that condition. According to the mechanic, I > didn't damage the valves (chain didn't break), but he thinks with the > mileage that I'd be throwing money away by replacing the cover and > chain. > > Thanks, > Paul > I had my timing chain replaced at 125k as a precautionary matter. It cost about $1500 to have the shop replace it. The truck still runs great at 150k and I have no plans to get rid of it. In fact I have had people at the dealership offer to buy it. |