From: rangeleywood on
Hi Folks,

Looking for any help with this front end/tire problem. I have an 05
Corolla that I just had the tires replaced on at 54k. The original
tires were Goodyear Integrity's and gave me the expected life, the
tires wore evenly and during that time span I rotated them every 5k and
had the car aligned once, I do mostly highway driving in NE. After the
new tires were put on (Walmart - Uniroyal Tiger Paw - 80K tire) I heard
a fairly loud thumping noise, doing a little research on the web I
figured I had a bad tire, anyway went back to Walmart and had them
replace all the tires with the Goodyear Viva2 (60K tire). After
leaving I still could hear a thumping noise though not as pronounced.
Anyway I scheduled an appointment with toyota and also had a friend
take it for a ride who works for a dealer, his call was it was a front
right wheel bearing. Toyota took a look and I mentioned the wheel
bearing, they said it was a wheel bearing and replaced it and aligned
the car. Sure enough, drove it to work and the noise was still there.
Got home that night and did a rotation of the tires, front to back,
noise is still there, right side. My gut tells me it is still a tire
problem, the car drives straight with a little vibration in the wheel
at highway speeds. I talked to Walmart today and they will take a look
at each tire tomorrow. If everything turns out ok I guess it's back
Toyota. I have looked under the car to see if anything was bent when
put on the lift but everything looks fine. Lifting the car and working
the front wheel also show nothing lose. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

From: Ray O on

"rangeleywood" <pauljoecaruso(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155646112.966394.299710(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Folks,
>
> Looking for any help with this front end/tire problem. I have an 05
> Corolla that I just had the tires replaced on at 54k. The original
> tires were Goodyear Integrity's and gave me the expected life, the
> tires wore evenly and during that time span I rotated them every 5k and
> had the car aligned once, I do mostly highway driving in NE. After the
> new tires were put on (Walmart - Uniroyal Tiger Paw - 80K tire) I heard
> a fairly loud thumping noise, doing a little research on the web I
> figured I had a bad tire, anyway went back to Walmart and had them
> replace all the tires with the Goodyear Viva2 (60K tire). After
> leaving I still could hear a thumping noise though not as pronounced.
> Anyway I scheduled an appointment with toyota and also had a friend
> take it for a ride who works for a dealer, his call was it was a front
> right wheel bearing. Toyota took a look and I mentioned the wheel
> bearing, they said it was a wheel bearing and replaced it and aligned
> the car. Sure enough, drove it to work and the noise was still there.
> Got home that night and did a rotation of the tires, front to back,
> noise is still there, right side. My gut tells me it is still a tire
> problem, the car drives straight with a little vibration in the wheel
> at highway speeds. I talked to Walmart today and they will take a look
> at each tire tomorrow. If everything turns out ok I guess it's back
> Toyota. I have looked under the car to see if anything was bent when
> put on the lift but everything looks fine. Lifting the car and working
> the front wheel also show nothing lose. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but
cars can make thumping sounds for several reasons. Possible causes are
a an internal problem in the tire like a broken belt, bent wheel, bad wheel
bearing, and bad constant
velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to vehicle speed
rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause.

The easiest way to check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the
sound is to mount the spare and see if it goes away.

--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


From: rangeleywood on
Hey Ray,

Thanks for the reply, here's a little more info. I did replace each
tire with the spare and took it for a ride, the noise did not change, I
did this before I took it to Toyota for the wheel bearing change.
Wonder if jacking the front end up and running through the gears would
help determine the issue though how safe is this.


Ray O wrote:
> "rangeleywood" <pauljoecaruso(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155646112.966394.299710(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Looking for any help with this front end/tire problem. I have an 05
> > Corolla that I just had the tires replaced on at 54k. The original
> > tires were Goodyear Integrity's and gave me the expected life, the
> > tires wore evenly and during that time span I rotated them every 5k and
> > had the car aligned once, I do mostly highway driving in NE. After the
> > new tires were put on (Walmart - Uniroyal Tiger Paw - 80K tire) I heard
> > a fairly loud thumping noise, doing a little research on the web I
> > figured I had a bad tire, anyway went back to Walmart and had them
> > replace all the tires with the Goodyear Viva2 (60K tire). After
> > leaving I still could hear a thumping noise though not as pronounced.
> > Anyway I scheduled an appointment with toyota and also had a friend
> > take it for a ride who works for a dealer, his call was it was a front
> > right wheel bearing. Toyota took a look and I mentioned the wheel
> > bearing, they said it was a wheel bearing and replaced it and aligned
> > the car. Sure enough, drove it to work and the noise was still there.
> > Got home that night and did a rotation of the tires, front to back,
> > noise is still there, right side. My gut tells me it is still a tire
> > problem, the car drives straight with a little vibration in the wheel
> > at highway speeds. I talked to Walmart today and they will take a look
> > at each tire tomorrow. If everything turns out ok I guess it's back
> > Toyota. I have looked under the car to see if anything was bent when
> > put on the lift but everything looks fine. Lifting the car and working
> > the front wheel also show nothing lose. Anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but
> cars can make thumping sounds for several reasons. Possible causes are
> a an internal problem in the tire like a broken belt, bent wheel, bad wheel
> bearing, and bad constant
> velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to vehicle speed
> rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause.
>
> The easiest way to check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the
> sound is to mount the spare and see if it goes away.
>
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

From: C. E. White on

"rangeleywood" <pauljoecaruso(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155646112.966394.299710(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Folks,
>
> Looking for any help with this front end/tire problem. I have an 05
> Corolla that I just had the tires replaced on at 54k. The original
> tires were Goodyear Integrity's and gave me the expected life, the
> tires wore evenly and during that time span I rotated them every 5k and
> had the car aligned once, I do mostly highway driving in NE. After the
> new tires were put on (Walmart - Uniroyal Tiger Paw - 80K tire) I heard
> a fairly loud thumping noise, doing a little research on the web I
> figured I had a bad tire, anyway went back to Walmart and had them
> replace all the tires with the Goodyear Viva2 (60K tire). After
> leaving I still could hear a thumping noise though not as pronounced.
> Anyway I scheduled an appointment with toyota and also had a friend
> take it for a ride who works for a dealer, his call was it was a front
> right wheel bearing. Toyota took a look and I mentioned the wheel
> bearing, they said it was a wheel bearing and replaced it and aligned
> the car. Sure enough, drove it to work and the noise was still there.
> Got home that night and did a rotation of the tires, front to back,
> noise is still there, right side. My gut tells me it is still a tire
> problem, the car drives straight with a little vibration in the wheel
> at highway speeds. I talked to Walmart today and they will take a look
> at each tire tomorrow. If everything turns out ok I guess it's back
> Toyota. I have looked under the car to see if anything was bent when
> put on the lift but everything looks fine. Lifting the car and working
> the front wheel also show nothing lose. Anyone have any suggestions?

Are you sure you don't have a bent wheel? It seems like you have had the
same problem with two different sets of tires and that the problem first
appeared after you had the tires replaced. I'd suggest jacking up the car
and rotating the wheels to make sure they spin true. Is the noise always in
the same place? If it is a front noise, did you check the CV joints?

Ed


From: rangeleywood on
Hey Ed, thanks for the reply, see below

Q: Are you sure you don't have a bent wheel?
R: Maybe I do, I'm going back to the tire shop tomorrow to have them do
a rebalance and check, would a rebalance detect this, wonder if the rim
was bent when the tire was put on?

Q: It seems like you have had the same problem with two different sets
of tires and that the problem first appeared after you had the tires
replaced.
R: Correct, problem first noticed after the first set of new tires put
on and still there after the second set put on, defective tire twice
would be slim right.

Q: I'd suggest jacking up the car and rotating the wheels to make sure
they spin true.
R: I did spin each wheel, aligning my eye with the wheel and a fixed
object on the car, one seemed a little off. I've always swapped the
tires front to back, maybe if I switch them from driver to passenger
and the noise doesn't change then I can omit this as being a tire
problem.

Q: Is the noise always in the same place? If it is a front noise, did
you check the CV joints?
R: Noise always appears to be in the front right, this is were toyota
changed the wheel bearing. I didn't check the CV but wouldn't the CV
be noisy when I turn the wheel?


C. E. White wrote:
> "rangeleywood" <pauljoecaruso(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155646112.966394.299710(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Looking for any help with this front end/tire problem. I have an 05
> > Corolla that I just had the tires replaced on at 54k. The original
> > tires were Goodyear Integrity's and gave me the expected life, the
> > tires wore evenly and during that time span I rotated them every 5k and
> > had the car aligned once, I do mostly highway driving in NE. After the
> > new tires were put on (Walmart - Uniroyal Tiger Paw - 80K tire) I heard
> > a fairly loud thumping noise, doing a little research on the web I
> > figured I had a bad tire, anyway went back to Walmart and had them
> > replace all the tires with the Goodyear Viva2 (60K tire). After
> > leaving I still could hear a thumping noise though not as pronounced.
> > Anyway I scheduled an appointment with toyota and also had a friend
> > take it for a ride who works for a dealer, his call was it was a front
> > right wheel bearing. Toyota took a look and I mentioned the wheel
> > bearing, they said it was a wheel bearing and replaced it and aligned
> > the car. Sure enough, drove it to work and the noise was still there.
> > Got home that night and did a rotation of the tires, front to back,
> > noise is still there, right side. My gut tells me it is still a tire
> > problem, the car drives straight with a little vibration in the wheel
> > at highway speeds. I talked to Walmart today and they will take a look
> > at each tire tomorrow. If everything turns out ok I guess it's back
> > Toyota. I have looked under the car to see if anything was bent when
> > put on the lift but everything looks fine. Lifting the car and working
> > the front wheel also show nothing lose. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Are you sure you don't have a bent wheel? It seems like you have had the
> same problem with two different sets of tires and that the problem first
> appeared after you had the tires replaced. I'd suggest jacking up the car
> and rotating the wheels to make sure they spin true. Is the noise always in
> the same place? If it is a front noise, did you check the CV joints?
>
> Ed