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From: JT on 2 Sep 2006 21:46
2004 Avalon XLS: I thought I'd be a good kid and replace the cabin air
filter, even though from the price it must be made of the same stuff
that's in the cat convertor.

Bosch says to drop the glove box by removing a screw on the right and
the filter box is right behind it, but the advise applies to 2000 on
and apparently not mine. Plastic widget on right seems like it ought
to turn about 45 degrees and pop through a slot but seems
glued/welded. Peeking behind anyway the filter box, if that's it, has
another panel in the way.

How to get the glove box out of the way without breaking something? Is
that really the correct path?

Thanks...
From: "ron" really on 2 Sep 2006 23:10
We had an 02 Avalon and had to remove all the screws around face of
glove box AND a small bolt

We have an 05 Limited now and I've not changed it yet but it appears
to be much closer to my Highlander.

It has a dampener rod on right side of glove box - remove screw then
hold door up a bit (empty!) and push in sides - should allow the box
to drop down exposing the filter cover - pull it off and replace
filter.

There are after market (Bosch) filters out there but I prefer the
Denso if you can find it. Cabin filter here in Redding, Ca is 26.95 -
air filter is 16.95 both at dealer.

Hope this works (or similar to) your 04

From: JT on 3 Sep 2006 12:42
Thanks very much for the advice, Ron. The 04 xls does have that
dampener on the right, and a cone-shaped stop protruding out from the
right side of the box. The stop is easy to get by because the box is
flexible enough to just pooch it in and get the stop past the 'wall'.
But the connection to the damper is my stumbling block - the 'pin'
that holds the box to the damper is tee shaped, with a wide flat head
inside the glovebox, at the moment rotated about 45 deg from the
matching slot in the box. Obviously all I have to do is rotate the
head 45 deg to match the slot, pooch the box in a bit and down she
goes. But the thing seems welded in place. Fingers and small visegrips
don't budge it, and dynamite is likely to cause collateral damage.

(Oh, the solution is probably to push in on the glove box when it's
closed - that angle changes as the box rotates so the hole and pinhead
may be aligned then. Probably have to take the face off first.)

"ron" <really good(a)serviceu.com> wrote:

>We had an 02 Avalon and had to remove all the screws around face of
>glove box AND a small bolt
>
>We have an 05 Limited now and I've not changed it yet but it appears
>to be much closer to my Highlander.
>
>It has a dampener rod on right side of glove box - remove screw then
>hold door up a bit (empty!) and push in sides - should allow the box
>to drop down exposing the filter cover - pull it off and replace
>filter.
>
>There are after market (Bosch) filters out there but I prefer the
>Denso if you can find it. Cabin filter here in Redding, Ca is 26.95 -
>air filter is 16.95 both at dealer.
>
>Hope this works (or similar to) your 04

From: JT on 3 Sep 2006 12:47
Nope, wrong brilliant idea. The tee-head doesn't rotate, and really
seems glued to box. Exacto knife next to see if I can break it loose.
Seems like the wrong approach, though - why is something that
obviously is designed to rotate to line up with a slot "glued"?

JT <NgPoster(a)missing.org> wrote:

>Thanks very much for the advice, Ron. The 04 xls does have that
>dampener on the right, and a cone-shaped stop protruding out from the
>right side of the box. The stop is easy to get by because the box is
>flexible enough to just pooch it in and get the stop past the 'wall'.
>But the connection to the damper is my stumbling block - the 'pin'
>that holds the box to the damper is tee shaped, with a wide flat head
>inside the glovebox, at the moment rotated about 45 deg from the
>matching slot in the box. Obviously all I have to do is rotate the
>head 45 deg to match the slot, pooch the box in a bit and down she
>goes. But the thing seems welded in place. Fingers and small visegrips
>don't budge it, and dynamite is likely to cause collateral damage.
>
>(Oh, the solution is probably to push in on the glove box when it's
>closed - that angle changes as the box rotates so the hole and pinhead
>may be aligned then. Probably have to take the face off first.)
>
>"ron" <really good(a)serviceu.com> wrote:
>
>>We had an 02 Avalon and had to remove all the screws around face of
>>glove box AND a small bolt
>>
>>We have an 05 Limited now and I've not changed it yet but it appears
>>to be much closer to my Highlander.
>>
>>It has a dampener rod on right side of glove box - remove screw then
>>hold door up a bit (empty!) and push in sides - should allow the box
>>to drop down exposing the filter cover - pull it off and replace
>>filter.
>>
>>There are after market (Bosch) filters out there but I prefer the
>>Denso if you can find it. Cabin filter here in Redding, Ca is 26.95 -
>>air filter is 16.95 both at dealer.
>>
>>Hope this works (or similar to) your 04

From: "ron" really on 3 Sep 2006 13:38
the upper end reachable?

our 05 simply has a Phillips screw to attach to box

the 02 like I said probably had 6 or 8 screws around inside plus the
small bolt - seems like regression, not progress in doing simple
things. Shouldn't have to be so tough (unless they are pumping up
someone's salary)

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