1997 Camry Sport battery hassle
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From: Don on 30 Jun 2006 14:34 I replaced the battery in my car, a 1997 Camry Sport with one the dealer recommended: Optifit Battery 28800 - YZZAG 12v 70Ah 250A DIN 570A EN 6C This battery is 10Ah less than what was shown in the car specification, however the dealer said that the above battery was the current type for my car as the car specification battery was no longer available. Now I have fitted the battery I find that about 20 minutes after I park and lock the car the alarm sound and fill not switch off. The alarms sound for about 10 minutes or so with a gradually slowing tempo, until it ceases. Prior to fitting this battery the car did not exhibit this behaviour. On checking my owner's manual in specification for the battery it says, ".Voltage that is checked 20 minutes after the key is removed with all the lights turned off". I would like to know what's going on? Is the alarm activated due to the fact it thinks the battery is near discharged? Car starts no problem, it's a new battery! The car did not exhibit this behaviour with the old battery, so I suspect the new battery not being correct type. Any ideas
From: JM on 30 Jun 2006 15:16 "Don" <donkeyCIsland(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:e83qtq$2q3d$1(a)newsreader.cw.net... >I replaced the battery in my car, a 1997 Camry Sport with one the dealer > recommended: > > > Optifit Battery > 28800 - YZZAG > 12v 70Ah 250A DIN > 570A EN > 6C > > This battery is 10Ah less than what was shown in the car specification, > however the dealer said that the above battery was the current type for my > car as the car specification battery was no longer available. > > Now I have fitted the battery I find that about 20 minutes after I park > and > lock the car the alarm sound and fill not switch off. The alarms sound for > about 10 minutes or so with a gradually slowing tempo, until it ceases. > > Prior to fitting this battery the car did not exhibit this behaviour. On > checking my owner's manual in specification for the battery it says, > ".Voltage that is checked 20 minutes after the key is removed with all the > lights turned off". > > I would like to know what's going on? Is the alarm activated due to the > fact > it thinks the battery is near discharged? Car starts no problem, it's a > new > battery! The car did not exhibit this behaviour with the old battery, so I > suspect the new battery not being correct type. > > > Any ideas > Hi, I doubt the battery is faulty. But some or maybe most alarms monitor the voltage of the battery when you set the alarm. If say a door is opened then there is a current drawn by the bulb that comes on when door is opened to assist passengers getting in the car. This drop can me less than a few MA that's 1000th or one amp. if maybe the battery is nor well or fully charged, you may get a volts drop at the terminals because of it maybe being slightly higher voltage after just switching the engine off. That was the SET voltage the alarm saw. What happens if the alarm goes off like you say after some period and you reset the alarm at lets call it the level it dropped to to set the alarm off. Will the alarm stay set as usual then. I know when you get a new battery it may need a full over night charge. Do u have a Battery tester a Hydrometer to measure Specific Density. I just recently changed a battery on a Ford for a friend but non of the cells showed a full charge from the shop.They took 12 hours to come fully up, The rating is 70AH means you could draw 1 amp for 70 hours 2 amps for 35 hours and so on. The 250Amp is I think the cranking availability for the starter load. That's just my 2cents. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Don on 30 Jun 2006 16:37 Don't have a battery tester. Battery is a no maintenance type with a window showing different colour depending on charge (green ok, white not ok, etc.) Once the alarm as gone off (it must be the battery alarm because I cannot shut it off and it starts 20 mins after I shut engine down and lock up car) it stops after 7-10 minutes of its own accord. Yet I feel sure I could leave it for a week without using it, and start it ok. However previous battery just died on me without all the beeping tantrums of this alarm. I don't use the car that much and had been using it once a week or so. Then one day the previous battery failed to turn over engine. Hence I bought a new one. Now this wretched alarm annoys me and neighbours 20 minutes after I park. I have seen this happen on other people's cars, BMW springs to mine, so it must be a common problem. I may take it back to the garage to get them to test its charge state. However, could I not recharge using the alternator on a long drive? "JM" <johnny(a)melvin.com> wrote in message news:44a56b42$0$9831$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > > "Don" <donkeyCIsland(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:e83qtq$2q3d$1(a)newsreader.cw.net... > >I replaced the battery in my car, a 1997 Camry Sport with one the dealer > > recommended: > > > > > > Optifit Battery > > 28800 - YZZAG > > 12v 70Ah 250A DIN > > 570A EN > > 6C > > > > This battery is 10Ah less than what was shown in the car specification, > > however the dealer said that the above battery was the current type for my > > car as the car specification battery was no longer available. > > > > Now I have fitted the battery I find that about 20 minutes after I park > > and > > lock the car the alarm sound and fill not switch off. The alarms sound for > > about 10 minutes or so with a gradually slowing tempo, until it ceases. > > > > Prior to fitting this battery the car did not exhibit this behaviour. On > > checking my owner's manual in specification for the battery it says, > > ".Voltage that is checked 20 minutes after the key is removed with all the > > lights turned off". > > > > I would like to know what's going on? Is the alarm activated due to the > > fact > > it thinks the battery is near discharged? Car starts no problem, it's a > > new > > battery! The car did not exhibit this behaviour with the old battery, so I > > suspect the new battery not being correct type. > > > > > > Any ideas > > > Hi, > > I doubt the battery is faulty. > But some or maybe most alarms monitor the voltage of the battery > when you set the alarm. > If say a door is opened then there is a current drawn by the bulb that comes > on when door is opened to assist passengers getting in the car. > This drop can me less than a few MA that's 1000th or one amp. > > if maybe the battery is nor well or fully charged, you may get a volts drop > at the terminals because of it maybe being slightly higher voltage after > just > switching the engine off. > That was the SET voltage the alarm saw. > > What happens if the alarm goes off like you say after some period and you > reset the alarm > at lets call it the level it dropped to to set the alarm off. > > Will the alarm stay set as usual then. > > I know when you get a new battery it may need a full over night charge. > Do u have a Battery tester a Hydrometer to measure Specific Density. > I just recently changed a battery on a Ford for a friend but non of the > cells > showed a full charge from the shop.They took 12 hours to come fully up, > > The rating is 70AH means you could draw 1 amp for 70 hours > 2 amps > for 35 hours and so on. > > The 250Amp is I think the cranking availability for the starter load. > > > > That's just my 2cents. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >
From: JM on 30 Jun 2006 17:34 "Don" <donkeyCIsland(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:e8423h$2rvs$1(a)newsreader.cw.net... > Don't have a battery tester. Battery is a no maintenance type with a > window > showing different colour depending on charge (green ok, white not ok, > etc.) > > Once the alarm as gone off (it must be the battery alarm because I cannot > shut it off and it starts 20 mins after I shut engine down and lock up > car) > it stops after 7-10 minutes of its own accord. Yet I feel sure I could > leave > it for a week without using it, and start it ok. > > However previous battery just died on me without all the beeping tantrums > of > this alarm. I don't use the car that much and had been using it once a > week > or so. Then one day the previous battery failed to turn over engine. Hence > I > bought a new one. Now this wretched alarm annoys me and neighbours 20 > minutes after I park. > > Hi Don, Yes ok it will charge up on a long drive to some extent. But a good overnight would be better. Ok on the Window colour. Well I have a 1995 CAMRY 4 cyl 2.2 litre. Owned since new. My battery on there lasted 9 and a half years yes 9.5 years. It just died. No low battery no signs but one cell was way low. It still showed the BLUE window saying all was ok. I wonder just out of interest. Did anyone check the electrolyte level in the battery. I take it they are all ok? Maybe just for the hell of it check the connectors on the battery. There will be the usual 2 heavy wires but maybe a smaller one direct to the alarm. Has that been connected WELL. Just a thought. Some times its the simple things Don. Cheers Johnny UK -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Don on 30 Jun 2006 19:08
Johnny The window colour is green, but then the battery has just been purchased new from dealer for ?52. Plus they charged me ?5 to dispose of my old battery! Not sure the electrolyte level in the battery can be checked as it is a sealed no maintenance battery with just the window (which only checks one cell). I think the only way to check such batteries is by testing the voltage (this is probably what my car is doing and then wasting more power beeping at high decibels for 7mins to tell me its at a low level). I will get the dealer to do this for me. Of course my alternator could be faulty (this is what the dealer said when I asked for a new battery). But I figured the battery was at least 4+ years old and I needed to use car immediately, so decided to get a new one. I suppose I could install a battery switch to disconnect the battery. Don't know how easy it would be to do this. "JM" <johnny(a)melvin.com> wrote in message news:44a58b81$0$9926$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > > "Don" <donkeyCIsland(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:e8423h$2rvs$1(a)newsreader.cw.net... > > Don't have a battery tester. Battery is a no maintenance type with a > > window > > showing different colour depending on charge (green ok, white not ok, > > etc.) > > > > Once the alarm as gone off (it must be the battery alarm because I cannot > > shut it off and it starts 20 mins after I shut engine down and lock up > > car) > > it stops after 7-10 minutes of its own accord. Yet I feel sure I could > > leave > > it for a week without using it, and start it ok. > > > > However previous battery just died on me without all the beeping tantrums > > of > > this alarm. I don't use the car that much and had been using it once a > > week > > or so. Then one day the previous battery failed to turn over engine. Hence > > I > > bought a new one. Now this wretched alarm annoys me and neighbours 20 > > minutes after I park. > > > > > Hi Don, > > Yes ok it will charge up on a long drive to some extent. > But a good overnight would be better. > > Ok on the Window colour. > > Well I have a 1995 CAMRY 4 cyl 2.2 litre. > Owned since new. > > My battery on there lasted 9 and a half years > yes 9.5 years. > It just died. No low battery no signs but one cell was way low. > > It still showed the BLUE window saying all was ok. > > I wonder just out of interest. > Did anyone check the electrolyte level in the battery. > I take it they are all ok? > > Maybe just for the hell of it check the connectors on the battery. > There will be the usual 2 heavy wires but maybe a smaller one direct to the > alarm. > Has that been connected WELL. > > Just a thought. > Some times its the simple things Don. > > Cheers Johnny UK > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |